Posted on 09/23/2015 7:48:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Of all the points presidential hopeful Ben Carson made in defense of his position [1] that he would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation, the most poignant was his referencing of taqiyya, one of Islams doctrines of deception.
According to Carson, whoever becomes president should be sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran:
I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country, Carson said, referencing the Islamic law derived from the Koran and traditions of Islam. Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and thats inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.
Carson said that the only exception hed make would be if the Muslim running for office publicly rejected all the tenants of Sharia and lived a life consistent with that.
Then I wouldnt have any problem, he said.
However, on several occasions Carson mentioned “Taqiyya,” a practice in the Shia Islam denomination in which a Muslim can mislead nonbelievers about the nature of their faith to avoid religious persecution.
Taqiyya is a component of Shia that allows, and even encourages you to lie to achieve your goals, Carson said.
Considering that the current U.S. president has expunged all reference to Islam in security documents and would have Americans believe that Islamic doctrine is more or less like Christianity, it is refreshing to see a presidential candidate referencing a little-known but critically important Muslim doctrine.
However, the widely cited notion that taqiyya is only a Shia doctrine needs to be corrected. This is false, and it lets the vast majority of the worlds Muslims, the Sunnis, off the hook.
According to Sami Mukaram, one of the worlds foremost authorities on taqiyya:
Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.[i] [2]
Taqiyya is often associated with the Shias because, as a minority group interspersed among their Sunni rivals, they have historically had more reason to dissemble. Today, however, Sunnis living in the West find themselves in the place of the Shia. Now they are the minority surrounded by their historic enemies — Western infidels — and so they too have plenty of occasion to employ taqiyya.
Making Muslims swear on Bibles would not be any defense against taqiyya. As long as their allegiance to Islam is secure in their hearts, taqiyya allows Muslims to behave like non-Muslims. Praying before Christian icons, wearing crosses, making the sign of the cross — anything short of actually killing a Muslim could be allowed. (In several instances, Muslims in the U.S. military exposed their true loyalties when they reached the point of having to fight fellow Muslims [3] in foreign nations.[ii] [4])
For those with a discerning eye, taqiyya is all around us. Muslim refugees have pretended to convert to Christianity (in the past [5] and the present [6]); an Islamic gunman gained entrance inside a church by feigning interest in Christian prayers [7]. Examples abound on a daily basis.
Consider the following anecdote [8] from Turkey. In order to get close enough to a Christian pastor to assassinate him, a group of Muslims — including three women — feigned interest in Christianity, attended his church for over a year, and even participated in baptism ceremonies. Said the pastor, Emre Karaali:
These people had infiltrated our church and collected information about me, my family and the church and were preparing an attack against us. Two of them attended our church for over a year and they were like family.
If some Muslims are willing to go to such lengths to eliminate the already downtrodden Christian minorities in their midst, does anyone doubt that a taqiyya-practicing Muslim presidential candidate might have no reservations about swearing on a stack of Bibles?
Precedents for such treachery litter the whole of Islamic history, and begin with the Muslim prophet himself.
During the Battle of the Trench (627 AD), which pitted Muhammad and his followers against several non-Muslim tribes collectively known as the Confederates, a Confederate called Naim bin Masud went to the Muslim camp and converted to Islam. When Muhammad discovered the Confederates were unaware of Masuds deflection to Islam, he counseled him to return and to try to get his tribesmen to abandon the siege. For war is deceit, Muhammad assured him.
Masud returned to the Confederates without their knowledge that he had switched sides, and began giving his former kin and allies bad advice. He also intentionally instigated quarrels between the various tribes until, thoroughly distrusting each other, they disbanded and lifted the siege, allowing an embryonic Islam to grow. (Here, a Muslim site extols this incident for being illustrative of how Muslims can subvert non-Muslims [9].)
If a Muslim were running for president of the U.S. in the hopes of ultimately subverting America to Islam, he could, in Carsons words, easily be sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran and publicly reject all the tenants of Sharia. Indeed, he could claim to be a Christian and attend church every week.
It speaks well about Carson that he is aware of, and not hesitant to mention, taqiyya. But that doctrines full ramifications regarding how much deception it allows, and its practice by all Muslim denominations, not just the Shia, still needs greater awareness.
The chances of that happening are dim. Already mainstream media like the Washington Post have, incorrectly, taken Carson to task for misunderstanding taqiyya [10] – that is, for daring to be critical of anything Islamic. These outlets could benefit from learning more about Islam and deception per the below links:
Article printed from PJ Media: http://pjmedia.com
URL to article: http://pjmedia.com/blog/ben-carson-exposes-islamic-taqiyya-but-theres-even-more-you-should-know/
URLs in this post:
[1] in defense of his position: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/254330-carson-doubles-down-on-no-muslims-in-the-white-house
[2] [i]: #_edn1
[3] exposed their true loyalties when they reached the point of having to fight fellow Muslims: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/obama-modifies-u-s-oath-of-allegiance-to-accommodate-muslims/
[4] [ii]: #_edn2
[5] past: http://al-qantara.revistas.csic.es/index.php/al-qantara/article/viewFile/310/300
[6] present: https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/germany-turkish-muslims-pretend-to-convert-to-christianity-to-gain-residency/
[7] feigning interest in Christian prayers: http://www.kltv.com/story/30029326/pastor-speaks-out-about-man-who-allegedly-threatened-his-church
[8] anecdote: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-threat-of-islamic-betrayal/
[9] illustrative of how Muslims can subvert non-Muslims: http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=10831
[10] misunderstanding taqiyya: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/22/wapo-4-pinocchios-for-ben-carson-on-taqiyya/
[11] expert testimony: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/taqiyya-about-taqiyya/
[12] doctrine of tawriya: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/tawriya-lying/
[13] Islams Doctrines of Deception: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/islams-doctrines-of-deception/
[14] Recent examples: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/when-muslims-betray-non-muslim-friends-and-neighbors/
[15] [i]: #_ednref
I am SO glad that you have brought to light the Muslim principle of Taqyya. It is indeed to be used whenever the truth fails to advance Islam against the Infidel. It is well past time we understand the nature of the Islamic war against all Infidels everywhere, all the time. Islam divides the world into to two parts: the House of War(the unconverted lands) and the House of Peace(Lands that accept Islam). In other words it is a religious responsibility to be in a constant state of Holy War with all nations that do not submit To Islam.This also includes all lands that at one time have been under the political control of Muslims. Spain, southern France, Greece, Austria,southern Russia,of course Israel,and more fall into this class. Every weapon can and will be used; including, lying, disinformation,and betrayal. We do NOT want a Muslim anywhere NEAR the White House, and understand that we are in total war with Islam in the West in, which only our unconditional surrender is acceptable.
Carson obviously understands that Christianity (or Judeo-Christianity, a redundancy) happens to underlay our Constitution and all of Western Civilization, that its principles can never be separated from the public square without damage to either or both.
Do any Christians or non-muslims hold leadership positions in muslim majority countries?
Probably not.
Obama wants another muslim in the White House so they can continue his War on Christians.
Saw Lou Alcindor on Fox and Friends this AM speaking about tolerance and the religion of peace.
If satan wrote a book it would be exactly like the koran.
“Interesting how out of touch the media can be sometimes.”
The corrupt media formerly known as mainstream is not out of touch. They know what is going on but their agenda is to push the country left.
Yet the media consistently take the position that the views of themselves and people on the upper west side are mainstream, while the positions of middle America are out of touch. We are in Orwells 1984 in that respect; up is down, black is white.
Someone posted here in FR recently a graphic (I think) with the words:
1984 wasn’t supposed to be a User Guide
Obama has Muslims in his administration. Working in national security.
>> Good for Dr. Carson. <<
If what is going down is what he intended, maybe.
I wonder if he intentionally became the sacrificial candidate over this? This is unfolding as a potential Millstone around his political neck.
This will be the only topic wherever he appears; the MSM are not going to let go of this snare.
I really wonder about Pajamas motivation in publishing this.
It doesn’t matter what he intended. It’s bringing something out that the low information voter idiots need to hear.
I’m sure he can deal with it as it comes up. The more it comes up, the better.
Their “snare” is likely to backfire on them.
We need to look at the positive side of this.
In America it's spelled democrat.
Is there any argument against the statement, “A Muslim can never be trusted”? I’d love to think there were some who can be salvaged, but given the central place in Islam of a doctrine that states, “Lying to non-Muslims is encouraged”, I just don’t know that there’s a logic trail that allows me to trust the word or actions of a Muslim. And that’s tragic.
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I tend to look at the real side.
The probability of the “positive” you suggest is a bit remote, considering who controls the information stream to the majority.
FreeRepublic is an anomaly in this world, and we all too often take it for granted.
It seems our entire political class has fully embraced the concept them selves.
well look at who their prime example is. The man with no birth certificate, no social security number, and no allegiance to the Unied States that now runs it.
Half of America doesn’t know, doesn’t care, and don’t want to hear about this junk.
So, what’s happening on Keeping up with the Kardashians and Survivor these days? How about those Cardinals, eh! Try the new local beer yet?
We’re toast, thanks to our professors, pubic school teachers, media, unions, Democrats and churches.
(Im not a poet, obviously)
You're not a poet and know it. (But that was good!) :-)
FreeRepublic is an anomaly in this world, and we all too often take it for granted.
A lot gets out to a lot of people. FR is a drop in the conservative information bucket.
RE: Saw Lou Alcindor on Fox and Friends this AM speaking about tolerance and the religion of peace.
Kareem ( AKA Lou ) is barking up the wrong tree. He ought to lecture his co-religionists in the Middle East and in in this country.
RE: Well then, go and insert the missing line for me.
OK, from one non-poet to another....
I once met a girl named Taqiyya.
I saw her and said Mama Mia!
She said she loved me
And soon took all my money
And then finally said to me, C Ya!
[I’d like to encourage other posters to make it better :)]
“Saw Lou Alcindor on Fox and Friends “
Is he back to using his real name again?
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