True.
But being wise in the ways of mankind they did anticipate it and so provided guidance on what we should do when that day arrived.
Posted on 09/21/2015 10:49:37 AM PDT by markomalley
Forty-nine percent of people asked in a new Gallup survey say the federal government poses "an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens," and another 19 percent say the federal government is too big in general and puts forth too many laws.
Though this sentiment has been felt by generally the same percentage of Americans for the past five years, fewer than a third of those asked (30 percent) believed it when they were first asked in 2003.
Another 15 percent of those asked worry the federal government violates too many freedoms and civil liberties, while 13 percent see the government as a threat to the Second Amendment.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
“What if your answers were ignored.. and your vote was added to some other category?..as is often done.. then just participating in the ruse was an ERROR.. making you complicit..”
Pollsters who would go that far would just make up data if they couldn’t actually collect it. That makes my participation a wash at worst.
Let’s Roll.
Pollsters who would go that far would just make up data if they couldn’t actually collect it. That makes my participation a wash at worst.
So you think they DON’T?.. i.e. make up things?..
Manipulating the caller base to the desired results is hidden agitprop.. Done all the time..
Like lawyers asking “LEADING” questions..
Except there is NO JUDGE to catch them.. i.e. pollesters..
I don’t think that there is any downside to a convention, at least not one that i can think of, but I’m pretty sure that establishment politicians and their mouth pieces have been demagoguing the prospect of having one.
They don’t want anyone having any say so over them.
His research showed the states have submitted over 400 applications to congress.
Where is the congressional call to convention?
A congress that is frightened of a scowl or raised eyebrow from Obama will never call a convention.
The states should organize themselves around a convention of their own design.
There is little time.
Jacquerie, Publius:
I am looking for the link or FR thread to news about Congress setting up a Contact Point to receive or tabulate applications. It was posted here on FR several months ago. If you have a link or find one, please post to me, thanks.
Congress isn’t frightened of any scowl or raised eyebrow.
They are simply protecting their turf.
It is for them to tell us, it is not for us to tell them.
They are the Rulers, we are the Ruled.
All of government is the enemy, not just one part or half of it.
“So you think they DON’T?.. i.e. make up things?..”
I’ve known that since the Reagan years.
I wrote, “Pollsters who would go that far would just make up data if they couldn’t actually collect it.”
Here’s the way the grammar works:
A girl who would chew gum would swear.
A girl who would swear would smoke.
A girl who would smoke would drink.
And we all know what a girl who would drink would do.
Or so the nuns taught my mother back in the nineteen-teens.
What I was saying was:
A pollster who would distort data would fabricate data.
And we all know that they do both.
LoL...
Recently, thanks to the work of Rep. Stivers, the Clerk of the House of Representatives is now also in the loop regarding applications for an Article V Convention. This came about for two reasons. First was Mark Levin's effort, which now has 4 states on board and 30 more to go. The second was the confusion over the applications for a convention to consider a balanced budget amendment.
Last year, a preliminary count from the Archivist showed that we had reached the magic number of 34 for a Convention of the States to consider a balanced budget amendment. However, a goodly number of states later rescinded their applications, and after that, a number of states that had rescinded went and issued new applications. The Speaker of the House sent a letter to the Archivist asking for an audit of applications with the assistance of legal counsel from the Speaker's office.
The audit showed that there were actually 26 valid, current applications from the states for a convention to consider a balanced budget amendment. This year, two more states piled on, increasing that number to 28.
The Archivist and the Clerk of the House are now in sync.
Exactly. The federal government works in direct opposition to its citizens.
The greatest damage it has done up to this point is the avid destruction of the middle class.
Sorry to say, but it ALREADY represents the will of the People...by taking from those that can and giving to those that won’t.
It cast off the last shackles: enforcing the border/immigration and Equal Under the Law. It LONG ago cast off its primary goal: protection of the Rights of We the People.
Even the plain English could not thwart the heart of Man, through the Devil’s minions: lawyers. Only there could ‘not infringed’ = gun control, ‘abortion/murder’ = OK when cloaked in ‘privacy’ (yet the NSA, 16th...), or...
For as smart and noble as our Founders may have been, even they could not forestall the return of bread and circuses.
People too cowardly to go into a private booth and vote anonymously for what they claim they believe in are going to do nothing but drop to their knees and lick the soles of the boots that come to step on them.
True.
But being wise in the ways of mankind they did anticipate it and so provided guidance on what we should do when that day arrived.
I'll bet that's merely the percentage who will admit it. It's probably higher than that.
Actually I expect it would be astounding to learn what percentage actually DON’T know that the Sun comes up in the East and even more startling to learn how few can point to the East standing in their own front yards.
The downside is that a convention would propose amendments to change the rules in a game in which our opponents are not following any rules. They have installed umpires who make up new rules daily simply by misinterpreting the existing rules. In such a situation nothing is to be gained by writing a new rule book. Plus the fact that many, if not most, of prior changes appear to have been bad decisions, the sixteenth alone was enough to guarantee the end of anything resembling freedom and the seventeenth finished the job. The only ones being followed to the letter are the ones that should not have been passed. The parts of the rule book which are supposed to guarantee us a free country have been ignored for decades. Who can see any possibility that simply passing some amendments is going to correct the problems caused by refusing to abide by the current rules? We would at best wind up passing new laws forbidding the breaking of the old laws and at worst with a catastrophe that no one can possibly imagine at this point. There would probably be ZERO potential for positive results. The only way I could see a positive result is if a convention could be limited to the possible REPEAL of several existing amendments and I know of no way to do that regardless of what some say.
In short I doubt there is a worse idea with less of a possibility of a positive outcome being circulated by anyone at the present time. I suspect that the wildest eyed of liberals would probably be in favor of it though.
If you should ever succeed in calling this convention I humbly suggest that some esteemed person who happens to bear the surname of Murphy be selected to spearhead the effort. That way we can refer to the results as “Murphy’s laws”, a name which no doubt will be quite fitting.
“I don’t think that there is any downside to a convention, at least not one that i can think of,”
Find a nice chair in a place where you won’t be disturbed, get nice and comfy, lean back, close your eyes and relax, it’ll probably come to you before long.
Kiss my ass, punk.
I wonder if they are opposed to the exercise of other societal rights as well.
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