The more the libs try to hit him, the more they get bloodied.
The MSM wants to set it up so that it is Hillary VS Fiorina - then they will destroy Fiorina.
Trump has them all terrified.
Posted on 09/20/2015 6:27:26 AM PDT by Din Maker
“I don’t know if Fiorina is part of a Bush Plan, but the Establishment media is all in for her.”
That says it all. If they want her, she’s pro-amnesty. I will never vote for her.
Trump and Cruz do seem to get along. A very interesting duo!
“If only men could vote, I think he would do well. I don’t think his personality especially appeals to women voters. Marco Rubio would do the best in that regard, “
I’d crawl over broken glass to vote for Cruz. And I’d throw the broken glass at Rubio and his amnesty plans.
Say you’re not predicting that Snarly is gonna melt the Trumpster down are ya? Fahgedaboudit.
“What I heard in the debate and this AM was a Senator Rubio who grasps the issues and isn’t following the RNC line. “
He does on amnesty. I think the RNC would be happy to have him.
Puts him off my list.
Too bad because he is very eloquent. Jindal was as well in the first debate.
There’s many mire left-wing positive pieces about Fiorina. She’s pro-amnesty, after all. And anti-business (after destroying Lucent and HP)
Well I am Floridian. Rubio’s team contacted me after gang of eight and I told them to take me off their list. Several times recently they get a new list, send me email, and I unsubscribe. He can’t walk that back.
He is the cutest potential GOPe candidate and I believe I could vote for him 11/2016 but there is no way he gets my primary vote.
Larry, the part missing from your analysis is what happens if the lesser talents drop out between now and super tuesday.
Trump doesn’t have those voters right now and he’s got to compete to get them over the next 4-5 months.
I think there is a very solid 25% Trump vote that isn’t going anywhere come hell or high water. But the other 75% is still up for grabs and may consolidate around someone else.
If the melt happens, Carly should not be th beneficiary based on her woeful inexperience. Trouble is, we gave Trump a pass on that so it’s hard to argue Fiorina never won anything.
Cruz should be attorney general. It’s what he does. It’s what he knows.
Trump put the Clinton stooge Stapahnoflis in his place.
What this poll indicates to me is reactionary to the medias’ spin of the debate winners.
While the media does still control much of the public opinion, as we’ve seen so far, it is possible for a candidate to supersede that control.
Some candidate will use the below video against Fiorina. In addition she was an absolute disaster as CEO of high tech companies. My next door neighbor retired from HP right before she took over and told me he thanks his lucky stars he retired before she ruined the company. He said a lot of his friends lost everything.
Carly loves Hillary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kbvfwV8rHQ
“Say you’re not predicting that Snarly is gonna melt the Trumpster down are ya? Fahgedaboudit.”
I don’t know how much staying power she has. I do think it’s a terrible mistake to write her off by comparing her to Bachmann or Cain, because she’s got good political sense (unlike Cain) and has a strong record of leadership (unlike Bachmann). She’s also got rank-and-file Republican (of all stripes) women fired up, which can’t be underestimated.
I think Trump’s base at this point is 15-20%, with the current surplus 10% or so coming from the usual tire kickers who always bounce around at this point in the primaries. I think Carly has enough broad appeal across the Republican spectrum to get herself to 30% at some point this fall, at which point Donald gets desperate, doubles down on his outlandishness, and completely marginalizes himself. What happens after that is anyone’s guess, though I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone like Rubio (his fervent hatred on FR notwithstanding) begin to peak at the right time and pick up a big win in one of the early states.
Netz,
EVERYTHING you stated in your post #9 is TRUE and underway.
If Trump had 50% of the poll participants they would claim he had 15% and was dwindling.
This is a DIRECT EFFORT to shove a Bush, or Bush-like candidate down the public's throat.
If we're NOT prudent we will be back to voting for the LESSER of two evils or the LESSER of TWO $hit candidates.
The political a$$holes who currently control the "feeding trough" of our taxpayer dollars are NOT going to give up control of the trough easily.
They not only have to be EXPOSED but POUNDED into the ground mercilessly.
Trump has been doing that and they are now attempting to make him a prime target for removal.
If Carly loves Hillary, then The Donald wants to marry her:
“As fellow New Yorkers, Trump and Clinton have had something of a personal relationship. The Clintons attended Trump’s 2005 wedding, and the mogul donated to Clinton’s Senate campaign. So perhaps it’s not surprising that he was more positive about Clinton in the not-too-distant past.
“Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman,” he told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren in March of 2012. “I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard.
“I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her,” he added of the then-secretary of state.”
But I think if Carson were to leave today, 2/3 of his voters would go to Trump. If Cruz left, I think it would be the same---but Cruz won't leave because I'm convinced he and Trump have a deal, either Veep or Ag for Cruz.
The rest? Fiorina/Christie/Paul/etc. Trump probably gets half of them as soon as their person gets out. The other half? Hard to tell. In other words, I think you can make a pretty good case that if Carson goes, with Cruz's supporters, Trump is already over 50% GOP BEFORE even dipping into those who "have to be convinced."
Larry, great point on Cruz and Carson. I agree with you that those folks will consolidate with Trump.
But I still see a fascinating power summit that will need to take place among all of us as we’ll be divided 50-50 come next March.
Either the non-Trump GOP nominee will need to make peace with the Trump folks or Trump will have to make peace and win over the NRO crowd.
The more the libs try to hit him, the more they get bloodied.
The MSM wants to set it up so that it is Hillary VS Fiorina - then they will destroy Fiorina.
Trump has them all terrified.
Trump, however, is the ONLY one who will gain more from the indies and general public and dems than he will lose with the disaffected Republicans. I think he wins plenty to get the presidency.
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