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Should Israel and Its Arab Neighbors Form an Alliance Against Iran?
Algemeiner ^ | 9 Sept 2015 | Staff

Posted on 09/13/2015 12:30:57 AM PDT by BlackVeil

Could a nuclear deal with Iran accomplish more than what decades of diplomacy in the Middle East could not, and create new alliances between Israel and its Arab neighbors?

That’s a key question as we gear up for the battle on Capitol Hill ...

(Excerpt) Read more at algemeiner.com ...


TOPICS: Egypt; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabs; egypt; gaza; hamas; iran; iraq; israel; jordan; kurdistan; lebanon; receptayyiperdogan; russia; saudiarabia; sinai; syria; waronterror; yemen
More comments on the Saudi/Israel informal alliance. I think that teaming up with them against Iran is a terrible idea, but I am putting the article up, as it is currently much in discussion.
1 posted on 09/13/2015 12:30:57 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

The Saudis are NOT their friends. Look at their offer to provide money to Germany so the Jihadist invaders can have mosques to plan their methods of war in.


2 posted on 09/13/2015 12:38:42 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BlackVeil

Meanwhile, Iran is actively arming and subsidizing the “Palestinians”, in a chess move aimed at making alliance with other Muslim countries in the area much less likely.

Egypt, Jordan, and even Saudi Arabia are caught in this counter-move strategy. Do they stay or do they go?

The fit is steadily being fed into the shan.


3 posted on 09/13/2015 12:40:19 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: BlackVeil
Since we are dealing in the arena of possibilities, probabilities and speculation, let me offer mine.

If a WMD ever goes off in Israel (or the US for that natter, including Western Europe) it will not be Iranian. The device will not be Iranian, and the money and logistical train required to make it happen with also not be Iranian.

One more statement for the road - that WMD will have fingerprints from one or more of the following nations. Saudi Arabia, Qatar and/or Pakistan. The device will probably be Pakistani, and the money and logistical chains from Saudi or Qatari citizens.

My degree of confidence on that? Absolute.

The biggest threat in the world is Sunni militant Islam, but since its backers are 'allies' it doesn't get the attention it deserves, and the West would rather waste munitions on the likes of Qaddafi and Assad (both monsters, but largely toothless and nationally focused monsters) while the Saudis plan on building 200 wahhabi mosques in Germany.

4 posted on 09/13/2015 12:43:55 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: BlackVeil

Trying to get one group of mohadmadmen to kill another has worked out so well for us...


5 posted on 09/13/2015 12:59:36 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: spetznaz

Speaking of Egypt, what the heck happened there the other dat?


6 posted on 09/13/2015 1:01:23 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The Saudis are not our friends, either.


7 posted on 09/13/2015 1:34:50 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

That goes without saying.


8 posted on 09/13/2015 2:03:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BlackVeil

Sure a peace agreement with Pope Francis promoting it and solving all their problems. Then rebuild the temple with a newly established Agenda 21 NWO set in place, establish a biometic sytem reader whicg scans the forehead or right hand we’re all set to go except for those pesky earthquakes and asteroids...


9 posted on 09/13/2015 5:01:47 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: BlackVeil

As a result of Obama’s capitulation to Iran, the Sunni Arab states have already formed a coalition, a functioning one, now fighting Iranian proxies in Yemen. The coalition includes Egypt, the UAE, Sudan, Jordan and others. Even Pakistan and Turkey may soon align. The article seems to be asking will they or won’t they, well, they already have.

So, in attempting to isolate Israel, Obama has succeeded in isolating Iran.

Make no mistake, in the new Middle East order that Obama has inadvertently created, the Sunni Arab coalition needs Israel, and vice-versa. Notice how the “Palestinian question” has already moved to the back of the bus.

I’m not sure this is a bad thing.

Yemen is more important than it may seem. The coalition is winning there, for now, without Israel’s involvement, at least overtly. The restoration of Hadi to power in Yemen would be a huge defeat for Iran. Iran cannot be allowed to control both sides of the Strait.

Iran’s military power is vastly overrated. Their Air Force possesses only old and decrepit implements. The Iranian navy is similarly afflicted, nothing but tubs and tiny subs. The Iranian ground forces are formidable, but this does them no good in Yemen. Yemen is a bad place for Iran to make a stand, even through proxies.

Bibi certainly has the green light to attack Iran, but this cannot occur until Yemen is secured.

If Iran gets the $150 billion before the Houthis are defeated, then all bets are off.

And that’s why Val and Barack are in such a hurry to get this deal done.


10 posted on 09/13/2015 5:05:03 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: BlackVeil

there has been cooperation for years now.

Iran has no bomb and those noted are responsible for the intelligence gathering and the covert action


11 posted on 09/13/2015 5:10:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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The problem is: None of the Middle East is Israel’s friend....WE are, or where, their friend....until the muslim in chief was voted in by ‘deal files’ and voter fraud....TWICE!!!


12 posted on 09/13/2015 6:35:55 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("Go TRUMP 2016!!! All the Way to the White House!!!)
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I suspect it's formed or forming now, for certain contingencies such as thwarting the development of a bomb. Something the US and Europe view with disinterest.

13 posted on 09/13/2015 6:45:55 AM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: grania

That’s for sure. The only difference between the Saudis and ISIS is that the Saudis have a king. Muslims cannot be trusted. Why do we continue to pretend that they can be?


14 posted on 09/13/2015 9:56:20 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: wayoverontheright
Yemen is more important than it may seem. The coalition is winning there, for now, without Israel’s involvement, at least overtly.

Yes, Yemen is a very important conflict, getting little attention. I should post up some articles about it. If Netenyahu has a particle of sense, he will stay right away from it.

Syria, of course, is the other proxy war of Gulf Arabs vs Iran.

If they win in Syria, the Christian and minority communities are doomed. If they win in Yemen, then Al Qaida will establish bases in that country. These are victories of evil, not worth having.

There is also the problem of what Israel would really do with such corrupt and venal "allies". They should have won in Syria, long since, the Syrian govt is under international sanctions and is in a weak position. But the opposition forces are very divided and they keep fighting each other.

I think the Palestinians still have a few cards to play. Hamas is getting unusually favourable attention from the Israeli govt at present - this would be due to lobbying from Qatar. And in 2006, when Israel went into Lebanon (again), the Palestinian camps were untouched, and safe from all bombing runs. The Shia and Christian villages copped it good, but the P.A. had worked out an arrangement with the Israelis, and it held. Ein El Hilweh, the huge Palestinian camp in south Lebanon, used to be a punching bag for the Israelis in the 70s and 80s. Not any more, it is a dark powerful fortress - untouchable. Hezbollah keep a fearful distance from them. Israel has created something out of the south Lebanon adventure which will one day bite back.

15 posted on 09/14/2015 5:26:15 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: spetznaz
The biggest threat in the world is Sunni militant Islam, but since its backers are 'allies' it doesn't get the attention it deserves ...

Indeed. Although you would think that 9/11 would be wake up call.

Any sound sleeper who missed that, might be alarmed by events in Libya, and the organised push to flood Europe with immigrants.

16 posted on 09/15/2015 6:16:24 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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