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Beshear reacts to Rowan County marriage license issue
WBKO ^ | 9/3/2015 | Gov. Steve Beshear (D-Kentucky)

Posted on 09/03/2015 5:29:33 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

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To: ealgeone

She has not been sentenced...per say...

She has been detained under the judges discretion in contempt of court for refusing his order.


41 posted on 09/03/2015 7:05:47 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Gov. Beshear is a democrat. ‘Nuff said. Hopefully Kim Davis will withdraw her membership in the democratic party.


42 posted on 09/03/2015 7:07:45 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Maybe impeachment might mean something to him??


43 posted on 09/03/2015 7:10:21 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: reg45
A state governor has no jurisdiction in a federal case.

I beg to disagree with that. In this particular case, the underlying law is blatantly unconstitutional, for many reasons but the one I will use here is real simple...

Under the Constitution the State has sole jurisdiction to regulate, and to litigate marriage issues, like marriage, divorce and any contested issues.

The Federal government has absolutely no power in this legal area and the SCOTUS decision is tragically flawed and therefore is unconstitutional and illegal, no matter what they say about it.

44 posted on 09/03/2015 7:10:47 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Republican Wildcat

117 of 120 county clerks? Well, who else isn’t doing it, and why aren’t they in jail?


45 posted on 09/03/2015 7:10:51 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Vermont Lt

DOMA is still the law of the land.


46 posted on 09/03/2015 7:10:56 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

What a piece of sh*t that Governor is. He would spend hundreds of thousands on a barbeque i’ll wager.


47 posted on 09/03/2015 7:43:01 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ClearCase_guy
It’s not about baking cakes. It’s not about marriage licenses. Finding someone — anyone — to bake the cake is no solution. Finding someone — anyone — to sign the licenses is no solution. The exercise which is being followed is simple: Find the observant Christians and crush them. Call all the bakeries. Call all the county clerk’s offices. Make as many phone calls as you need to, until you find a Christian. And then — destroy that Christian.

And for some reason, there are a lot of Freepers who seem too stupid to grasp this basic concept. I am astonished at the number of people who keep think this will go away if they just appease them again.

48 posted on 09/03/2015 7:46:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Vermont Lt
But, if you are going to have one...it’s got to include gays.

We executed "gays" for sodomy during the founding era, and we locked them up in Asylums until the late 1950s thereafter.

On what basis do you claim that our laws have to include "gays"?

Where did you get this idea?

49 posted on 09/03/2015 7:50:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ealgeone

Isn’t this judge a G.W. Bush appointee?


50 posted on 09/03/2015 7:51:51 PM PDT by cblue55 ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants,")
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To: Vermont Lt
I am simply explaining that if a state has a marriage law it cannot refuse it to gays.

Yes it can. That is our entire History up till now. Gays are "non compos mentis". They were legally nuts up until 1973 when armies of faggots started threatening the member of the American Psychiatrists association.

They intimidated them into removing homosexuality from the list of mental disorders.

51 posted on 09/03/2015 7:54:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Vermont Lt

Why should any Christian every run for County Clerk ever again when are required to legitimize sodomy?


52 posted on 09/03/2015 7:56:22 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Theophilus
Why should any Christian every run for County Clerk ever again when are required to legitimize sodomy?

First thing the Nazis did was to pass laws banning Jews from government jobs or offices. This "ruling" accomplishes the same thing through the back door.

Christians who regard homosexuality as an abomination will feel as though they must exclude themselves from any office which is required to endorse such sick unions.

It is the Nazi Doctrine, imposed indirectly.

53 posted on 09/03/2015 8:00:13 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

If I can’t find someone running for Clerk in my County on the basis of defying this non law, I may run myself. And if my County elects another Clerk that legitimizes sodomy, I’ll find a State & County that won’t.


54 posted on 09/03/2015 9:44:42 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Vermont Lt
I don’t know why I have to explain stuff to you guys. Because I can explain it, you think I am defending it.

You didn't explain it very well, if you actually can explain it. In Post 23 you wrote:

The Supremes merely changed the interpretation of the existing laws. Based on the equal protection clauses. Therefore, if there is a marriage statute it applies to any two unrelated people considered adults.

In addition to what I wrote before, Ohio Revised Code 3101.01 also states: "Male persons of the age of eighteen years, and female persons of the age of sixteen years, not nearer of kin than second cousins, and not having a husband or wife living, may be joined in marriage."

Note that anyone under the age of twenty-one is a minor in Ohio and needs parental consent to get married, but they can still get married under the law. Note that if they are related as second cousins they can get married under the law. Your statement "...if there is a marriage statute it applies to any two unrelated people considered adults" is less than sufficient.

Also note the difference in the age requirement for males and females. Many state laws have this difference. If the "equal protection clauses" come into play as you say, this will have to be changed. Sooner or later someone else will conclude that.

I don't buy your explanation that "The Supremes merely changed the interpretation of the existing laws."

I think they bollixed up at least some if not all of the laws and we need new laws which we don't have yet.

I wonder how many marriages undertaken since the SCOTUS decision are legal, since we don't have good laws.

55 posted on 09/03/2015 11:05:49 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I don’t believe you, any more than your sign up date.


56 posted on 09/04/2015 12:48:09 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: KrisKrinkle

That’s not how this works. this is not a first amendment issue.


57 posted on 09/04/2015 4:11:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: DiogenesLamp

They have to include everyone. Period.

Look, I am not defending gays. I have stayed that over and over.


58 posted on 09/04/2015 4:13:58 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Mamzelle

Yeah, I hacked my join date to get into a discussion defining why something happened.

I don’t support gay marriage. It’s been in MA for years. I just don’t care that much.


59 posted on 09/04/2015 4:15:32 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: DiogenesLamp

Like I said....


60 posted on 09/04/2015 4:19:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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