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U.S. UNITS POISED TO ENTER TOKYO (9/3/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 9/3/45 | George E. Jones, Julius Ochs Adler, Robert Trumbull, W.H. Lawrence

Posted on 09/03/2015 4:59:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The War of Northern Aggression can spark some heated exchanges here, and expect push back on the Yankee spin of Harpers, but it should be highly educational for those who didn’t grow up learning about ‘the’ war.


161 posted on 09/14/2015 7:45:00 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; central_va; EternalVigilance
Enforceable anti-trolling rules should keep things from spinning out of control. It occurs to me that such a project would be a great homeschooling resource. Those lucky students who were just at the stage where they could appreciate the history at the beginning could follow project until they are ready for college. The fact that there are still warm feelings on the subject 160 years later would add spice to the experience.

Very true.

Another project that I would love to see is World War I.

162 posted on 09/14/2015 8:16:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Another project that I would love to see is World War I.

We could just roll the Civil War series into WWI. I'll be 122 by the time we get back to 1914, but who knows? Bernie Sanders just said people shouldn't die when they get sick so maybe immortality will be the norm after our next progressive President.

163 posted on 09/14/2015 8:22:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Just a thought.
164 posted on 09/14/2015 8:27:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Homer, I think you should take on the 100 Year War, or if it’s too much, maybe we could just do the Thirty Years War.

I would be happy to contribute to a Civil War thread. I’m a faculty advisor to the local high school “We The People” team and my specific unit covers the post-Civil War Amendments to the Constitution. This would be of some great interest. I do see as a drawback the contentious nature of the subject matter. I enjoyed the intellectual discussion on your World War 2 threads; as another poster commented we were all in agreement about that conflict. Not so with the Civil War and its aftermath, the repercussions we are still dealing with today. I don’t mind a contentious debate but I don’t like deliberate obstinacy for is own sake, intellectual dishonesty, and personal attacks. That’s why I left The History Channel forum a decade ago.

Just throwing out some things to consider.


165 posted on 09/14/2015 8:35:01 AM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Sounds good!

Back at University of Michigan they had the entire set of volumes back to 1858. Always good ready for a break from studies.


166 posted on 09/14/2015 8:37:34 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Democrats have destroyed more cities than Godzilla)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I would not mind if you ran through the WWII stuff from the beginning

It was AWESOME and I would love to see it again


167 posted on 09/14/2015 11:21:38 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: Mr. K
I would not mind if you ran through the WWII stuff from the beginning

Any registered freeper can do that any time. All the posts are available in my posting history or my profile.

168 posted on 09/14/2015 11:26:53 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Count me in


169 posted on 09/14/2015 11:28:15 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I think it’s a great idea!


170 posted on 09/14/2015 1:35:16 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989; All

The entire Official Record of the War of the Rebellion is online here:

http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/m/moawar/waro.html


171 posted on 09/14/2015 1:37:25 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

This is sounding better all the time.


172 posted on 09/14/2015 4:46:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: henkster

Thank-you, Sir. I was probably skipping school that lecture day.


173 posted on 09/14/2015 6:02:18 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Mr. K

Go to Homer’s link to past posts. I have been lurking there to check out posts before I found the threads.


174 posted on 09/15/2015 12:37:50 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
When I was a kid "Santa Claus" gave me a book entitled The Civil War In Pictures. Of course, in that era, almost all the illustrations were pen and ink. As I remember a lot of the pictures were from Harpers.

(Yeah, I was a history nerd back then too.)

175 posted on 09/15/2015 12:42:42 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: henkster
the end of western Judeo-Christian civilization

Given what has been happening in Europe the last few weeks, they have decided to hasten their own demise.

176 posted on 09/15/2015 12:46:36 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

That was pretty much what I was referring to. Colorado, I think you mentioned that you served a bit in Europe some time ago. What perception did you get in regard to how serious the Europeans were about resisting a Soviet invasion?


177 posted on 09/15/2015 1:03:20 PM PDT by henkster (Liberals forget Dickens' kids forged an Empire on which the sun never set.)
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To: henkster
What perception did you get in regard to how serious the Europeans were about resisting a Soviet invasion?

I got the impression that the Germans and Brits and for the most part the Dutch were very serious about resisting a Soviet invasion. The Germans especially understood it was an existential threat.

We Americans were also quite concerned about a Warsaw Pact conventional invasion. This was the era of the Brezhnev Doctrine and communism was on the march. If you talked to an officer privately, few of us thought Carter had the balls to use nuclear weapons, which had kept the Russians behind the Iron Curtain since Eisenhower. So, Fort Knox and TRADOC closely studied the 1973 war because the Israelis had faced and defeated similar odds. They let us look at the crap Russian equipment and had us listen to defectors who talked about the crap morale among the Russian conscripts. Still, we thought hard about 6-1 odds in a Russian breakthrough attack with a President we were not at all certain had our back.

I no longer have direct sources, but my impression is the current German reluctance to fight, if not pacifism, set in after the fall of the Soviet Union and the wolf was no longer at the door.

Another trend was happening in the 70's, however. The German economic miracle was in full swing and Germany had a labor shortage. So, they started importing poor Turks to make up for it. Of course, Turks from the Ataturk era in Turkey are quite different from the Islamist trash that is now invading Europe. Plus, there aren't any jobs for them.

Do you think Germany is blind to the threat because of the way they have internalized nondiscrimination based on religion after they were forced to confront their role in the Holocaust?

178 posted on 09/15/2015 2:03:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

We are contributing to the financial support of a young man and his wife as missionaries in Berlin of all places. He grew up two doors down from us, his parents are very good friends and he and his brothers are all very good friends with my sons. He was back home visiting this summer and we had a long talk about his mission trip to Germany. The Germans are the most atheist country in Europe right now, but they are polite atheists unlike our own home-grown militant evangelical atheists.

I told him it was my opinion this atheism stemmed from lack of organized religious objection to the Nazi movement, and it’s participation in supporting the Wehrmacht during the war. “Gott mit uns” was inscribed on every Landser’s belt buckle. Now, I’m sure the German clergy felt a need to provide spiritual support for the young German soldier, but it tainted them as an institution. After the horror of the war, the defeat, and the confrontation of the Holocaust, the Germans were and still are spiritually spent. Religion was discredited. My young missionary friend confirms this; the Germans don’t know about Christ, have completely lost touch with their Christian heritage, and simply don’t care about renewing it.

Because the Germans live in a spiritual vacuum, they don’t see Islam as a threat. They don’t “get” the concept of religious zealotry.


179 posted on 09/15/2015 2:38:08 PM PDT by henkster (Liberals forget Dickens' kids forged an Empire on which the sun never set.)
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To: Mr. K
In the late 1960's, shortly after I left the Marine Corps, I went to work in the office at a cold storage warehouse facility in Los Angeles....one of the regular pick-up drivers was an old fella in his 70's named Joe Keller, who drove a small van for a local trucking company....the office manager clued me in to his history.

He'd been a civilian working on Wake Island when it fell -- and he was well into his forties when he began spending the rest of the war as a POW.

He was a buzz-saw, who took BS off of nobody - and when the drivers for one of the many L.A. Japanese seafood companies showed up when he was on the dock, he'd run up to them and give 'em a verbal damning. He wasn't in the least shy about expressing his hatred for anything to do with the Land of the Rising Sun.

180 posted on 09/15/2015 2:52:44 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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