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Bernard Goldberg: Conservative Purists Could Cost the GOP the White House in 2016
National Review ^ | September 1, 2015 | Bernard Goldberg

Posted on 09/01/2015 3:49:31 PM PDT by EveningStar

... While 26 percent of Republicans say they would never vote for Trump, only 11 percent of Democrats say they would never vote for Clinton. Democrats don’t have the same kind of ideologically pure wing that has hurt GOP presidential candidates in the past. Democrats, it seems, are more practical. They may prefer Bernie Sanders, or one of the others, but when push comes to shove, almost all of them will vote for Clinton. Why? They want to win.

I recently received an e-mail from someone named Carl who described himself as a conservative Christian, and he wrote, "I have voted Republican since Eisenhower beat Stevenson, and if Jeb, Christie, Kasich, or Graham are nominated, I WILL STAY HOME!" ...

These purists have told me that there's little or no difference between a moderate Republican and a liberal Democrat. They're delusional, of course, blinded by their hard-right ideology, but that's what they believe nonetheless. And depending on who the GOP nominee is, they could represent big trouble for the party ...

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; bernardgoldberg; purists; youreprovinghispoint
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To: EveningStar
Whats the difference between those who want an anti-establishment nominee and those who want one sanctioned by the establishment?

Bernard can shove his 'purist' insult.

41 posted on 09/01/2015 4:18:51 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: EveningStar

Politician$ Co$t the republic..

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Rules for Radicals? No, “Rules for Changing a Limited Republican Government into an Unlimited Hereditary One”

6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt…

7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game.

10. “Divide and govern” is a maxim consecrated by the experience of ages, and should be familiar in its use to every politician…

11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks.

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/freneau/republic2monarchy.htm

The Indirect Approach to Despotism

Usually, however, these gentlemen — the reformers, the legislators, AND THE WRITERS ON PUBLIC AFFAIRS — do not desire to impose direct despotism upon mankind. Oh no, they are too moderate and philanthropic for such direct action. Instead, they turn to the law for this despotism, this absolutism, this omnipotence. They desire only to make the laws. - Bastiat

CAPS - MINE

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G036


42 posted on 09/01/2015 4:20:51 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: EveningStar

They just don’t get it. There is no Republican Party anymore.


43 posted on 09/01/2015 4:22:21 PM PDT by Hildy (God bless America, God bless SIlverton, Colorado and God protect us from the EPA.)
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To: EveningStar

Note to Golberg: historically it’s actually the OPPOSITE that has been of concern.


44 posted on 09/01/2015 4:26:10 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: EveningStar

Lose? To whom? Sanders?


45 posted on 09/01/2015 4:30:12 PM PDT by stanne
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To: savedbygrace
We are not in favor of a Republican President. We are in favor of hiring someone who will reverse the damage that both Dems and pubbies have caused this once-great

Exactly. And for the last few cycles, the GOP candidate has not been that person, but they still keep telling us to wave our pom-poms harder (while they stab conservatives we could vote for, like Chris McDaniel, in the back). Well this ain't football and I'm not on any "team", but then I have don't have big donors buying me out of my principles either. Plus, I believe that the GOP has been infiltrated, literally infiltrated, by the left. Harry Reid couldn't do a better job than this GOP majority, which they told us, wringing their hands in tearful earnestness, they had to have to forward the conservative agenda and undo Hussein's and the 'rat's damage.
46 posted on 09/01/2015 4:30:27 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EveningStar

Hey, Bernie...

47 posted on 09/01/2015 4:30:57 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You are correct. He will get a lot of Reagan Dem’s. Trump is already running to the middle.


48 posted on 09/01/2015 4:31:14 PM PDT by quantumman
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To: Iron Munro

“On the other hand, conservatives believe that Uniparty traitors to republican ideals gave Obama a win in 2012, have been his biggest enablers in the senate and congress, and are now fighting hard to prevent a conservative reformer from winning the nomination this year.”

Yes, that sums it up. I’m where I’ve always been, the party has left me.


49 posted on 09/01/2015 4:31:34 PM PDT by duffee (No money to the Mississippi Republican Party as long as joe nosef is chairman)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Because these days conservative strictly means “social conservative” and most politico types just can’t understand why anyone would care about things like sodomite mirage. These guys either earn, or are around, big money, and those are the only terms they think in, which includes foreign policy. We socons are some oddity that they just can’t figure out.


50 posted on 09/01/2015 4:33:44 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EveningStar
Bernard Goldberg: Conservative Purists Could Cost the GOP the White House in 2016

You sound uncertain, Goldberg.

Me, I'm absolutely positive that the Impurists ARE costing Americans their country.

51 posted on 09/01/2015 4:34:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Donald Trump is a symptom, not the cure.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

I don’t see where that concept exists on anyone’s spectrum, and just to show the power of the media’s repeated narrative over decades, that includes conservatives. I hardly ever see even a conservative refer to the “hard left”.


52 posted on 09/01/2015 4:35:38 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EveningStar

Bernie got the same memo that O’Reilly and Krauthammer got.


53 posted on 09/01/2015 4:36:40 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Mamzelle

I wouldn’t count on getting much satisfaction out of that, he’d probably like it. He sure likes kissing Hussein’s and Harry Reid’s.


54 posted on 09/01/2015 4:37:25 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yes, the Cochran/McDaniel race was where they showed their hole card. They know they showed it, they know they can’t take it back, and that’s why they’ve been so comfortable showing their open disregard for conservatives. The pressure and stress they were under of pretending to be what they never were, is off of them now.


55 posted on 09/01/2015 4:40:44 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“Bernie is a strange one.”

He was at SEE BS for too long!


56 posted on 09/01/2015 4:42:13 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: EveningStar

We don’t “have” to do anything according to the wishes of others. Ultimately, we decide. If so many folks with incomes directly and indirectly from government want socialism, let them experience the economic crash and layoffs of hard socialism. Give ‘em what they’re asking for. Let them be deposed and out of politics.

Sell, investors, sell. Secure your assets elsewhere, because here it comes.


57 posted on 09/01/2015 4:42:16 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: EveningStar
I'm not sure it's really about "conservative purism" this time.

First, if you're voting for Trump, you're voting for somebody who has taken some liberal positions in the past and may again in the future.

Trump's not bringing together purist conservatives, but people of more varied views who are motivated by some key issues, like immigration.

Second, people are fed up with Bush or the Bushes for specific reasons. Jeb's unpopularity doesn't necessarily mean an unwillingness to vote for other less-than-pure candidates.

Third, Ben Carson, the second place candidate, and his supporters don't necessarily fit the stereotype of the angry, destructive, purist voter.

But a lot of the comments do go a long way to backing Bernie up. He takes one (or maybe two or three, I don't know) positions somebody doesn't like and he's dead to them? Lost beyond all hope? That's not the way to put together a winning coalition.

58 posted on 09/01/2015 4:42:19 PM PDT by x
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t know if I’m a purist, but I will vote for Cruz or Trump, in either order. Neither of them could be worse than anyone else running right now. Even Trump is at least not anti-American. He’s a simple man in that respect (I mean simple in a good way, as in not devious).


59 posted on 09/01/2015 4:43:51 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: samtheman

Same here.


60 posted on 09/01/2015 4:44:57 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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