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Donald Trump: U.S. Treats Illegals Better than Vets
Brietbart ^ | August 30, 2015 | Tony Lee

Posted on 08/30/2015 9:53:28 PM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Hostage

I have been following this and I do know all that. I guess Ted Cruz does not understand either. What I wrote is what I heard him say in his interview with Sara Palin on OAN. Maybe I heard him wrong, but I don’t believe I did. He said that since Obama has violated the Corker deal the Senate could hold a simple majority vote to repudiate it and take the matter up as a treaty, which is what this really is in the first place. Watch the interview yourself, if you are interested it is on youtube. I don’t think for a second McConnell and company would have the spine to do it but I heard Cruz say he could.


81 posted on 08/31/2015 2:30:50 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

I have been one of Ted Cruz’ longest and biggest supporters on FR. I still contribute to his campaign and I have also registered with Donald Trump’s campaign website.

What Ted is say is ‘theoretically’ true. But reality is different. The reality is Obama’s lawlessness.

What should be done in theory that matches reality is not to vote to repudiate but rather vote requesting the House to draw up Articles of Impeachment. And yes I know that with McConnell and Boehner, such Articles of Impeachment will never happen.

But I said match the ‘theory’ with the reality.

Articles of Impeachment ‘match’ Obama’s lawlessness.

To have the Senate vote to repudiate is Ted thinking out loud about a response that has no impact. Because Obama has already had the deal ratified by the UN. And that means the $$$ is released to the current era’s version of Nazi Germany.

Ted should have called for Obama’s impeachment when Obama decided to go to the UN to have his deal ratified.

OR ... now that I am thinking about it, Ted should introduce legislation that bars a US President from negotiating treaties and deals with the UN without first getting approval from the US Senate or Congress in general.

Now such legislation would again have no impact but it would allow a clear view of who and who does not support Obama’s lawlessness and if by miracle such legislation was taken up and passed, then it would add to a moral argument for impeachment because Obama had promised he would wait for Congress before going to the UN and he broke up his promise. An impeachment could be based on solid ground of failing to observe the Constitutional requirement that 2/3’s of the Senate is required to approve a treaty but it would need to be accompanied by resolutions in both chambers that the Iran Deal is deemed a treaty. But this is all for the purpose of impeachment which will not happen with the current leadership in Congress.

We are talking about setting the stage for impeachment and that will never happen under McConnell/Boehner so this is all just talk and Ted’s suggestion to vote to repudiate is also just talk. I also saw the OAN interview of Sarah Palin with Ted Cruz.

So what we are doing is wasting time. What we should be doing is making sure Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are the ticket for 2016 to the fullest of our abilities.That means fighting the Rove-Bush machine.

Ted will have an Iran Deal protest with Donald Trump coming up. But the Iran Deal is a done deal from Obama’s point of view and Donald Trump said yesterday to the press and to the crowd that no matter what we do, no matter how our Congress votes etc. Iran gets the massive funds for which to create unbridled terrorism and nuclear attacks. Both Ted and Donald said precisely that.


82 posted on 08/31/2015 3:00:57 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

I agree with you on pretty much everything and I believe the coming war will be terrible.


83 posted on 08/31/2015 10:59:20 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Zakeet

That ain’t no lie.

Veterans have to get in line for free healthcare, etc.

Illegals need only say, “Soy indocumentado. No tengo dinero.”


84 posted on 09/01/2015 11:26:44 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Democrat_media; Spktyr

No, Spktyr is not lying. Here in Dallas/Fort Worth, we have negative unemployment in IT.

It’s not about paying more for Americans. Most employers are willing to do so to avoid the burdensome paperwork involved with HB1. The fact is that college grads in IT don’t know squat about the real world.

Conservatives have been saying for decades that universities are churning out idiots who think they are owed a job regardless of competence. It’s horsesh*t to now say, “Well, if you pay them more, they’ll learn it.”

It ain’t rocket science. There is a whole new industry in IT for post-graduate STEMs that is essentially providing IT bootcamps.

As for working remotely, that’s usually true but not always. Sometimes, one has to be on site.


85 posted on 09/01/2015 11:40:15 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Hostage
Obama then gave Congress an ultimatim. He said if he did not have a bill presented to him, he would go around Congress to the UN and have the deal ratified there.

And that's when any number of Senators, no matter how small the group should have also sent letters to the UN, the World Court, any other nation involved in the negotiations, and again to Iran, the letter stating the method used in our Constitution for these things and that anything done contrary to that system would be against our law, unenforceable except by the current executive, and changeable by any subsequent administration.

Then let Obama do what Obama does. It would just be another executive action that would be ended by the next executive.

They can actually still do that now, explaining that even the "bill" is contrary to our treaty provision and that any action in this realm is illegal and easily set aside.

86 posted on 09/02/2015 5:36:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: Spktyr; Democrat_media

Right now they’re adding a population the equivalent of 1 major city per year, of 1 million each, in legal immigration alone.

This is not including all the others, student visas, H-1B refugees, millions of illegal aliens and other categories.

I could quickly list 20 ways how this is significantly detrimental to our Veterans, our poor, our elderly, our middle class and our entire country. Given time the list would be large. Destructive immigration policies will be dramatically changing in the future.


87 posted on 09/02/2015 10:09:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Democrat_media; Spktyr

New laws, policies with significant limits are needed across the board regarding immigration. Legal and illegal folks including H1B and the rest. It’s the way it needs to be for now regardless of what some engineering firm in LA, or Denver wants for the right price. Those same engineering firms also hire thousands of illegals for their stoop labor through their contractors etc. The same firms bribe the politicians to get what they want. It’s slow national suicide.

There are ways to put young Americans who’d really want those jobs into those jobs. I understand it’s about their bottom line. I know most American and *foreign* owned biz here couldn’t care less about American allegiance. Biz is about profits and bottom line.

It’s a viscous cycle which makes as much sense as our government institutions, universities and colleges handing out worthless or unneeded diplomas to young Americans, while foreigners are invited in for good paying American jobs. All this while millions of others enter through federal government borders illegal taking a huge number of low tech middle class jobs. Who are the winners here?

This vicious cycle cannot be perpetuated. Like the man said, We’re in big trouble. America is broken it needs to be fixed.


88 posted on 09/02/2015 10:11:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: xzins

47 Senators led by Senator Cotton posted online a letter to that effect.

We have to stop being stupid.

If a criminal has his hands on $150+ Billion, your idea to send letters to foreign powers and organizations who think the US Government led by Obama is a joke, is a useless gesture. Such letters objecting to the criminal’s proximity to the $$$ is in fact following their view that the USA is a joke. A much stronger action is necessary.

To be clearer, if a criminal holds a gun to your head, your protestations that it is against the law or disapproved by the residents to pull the trigger, is in fact a joke. It is laughable. The only way such protestations can be taken seriously is if you have a bigger threat against of the criminal. Hence, a response stronger than letters of protestation is vital.

When Obama threatened to go to the UN, which he has already done, it was to get the $$$ and gold released. Letters of protest at this stage are impotent.

The appropriate action to take with Obama and with the future are two-fold:

1) Impeach and remove Obama,
2) Prepare for war and declare war on Iran.

The first item will not happen because leadership in Congress has been compromised. The grounds for 1) are failure to uphold the Constitution by circumventing Congress’ treaty powers and attendant treason in aiding enemies of the United States without participation and approval of Congress.

The second item will happen as a consequence of Obama facilitating the release of the $$$. War will happen in a couple of years as a consequence of what Obama has done. The declaration of war is necessary because all global powers need to be put on notice that any assistance to Iran, their agents or partners will be considered an act of war. The declaration must include a clear statement that the mission is defined as the complete defeat in every respect of the regime in Iran.

Reinstating sanctions and the necessity of increasing them are no longer possible because Obama has abdicated global leadership by the United states with his circumvention of Congress.

Congress will not pass a Declaration of War against Iran. The United States is not ordinarily an offensive power (Obama and Hillary Clinton’s contrived war on Libya is an exception). The United States is ordinarily a reactionary power to aggressors by serving as a global police power but this is no longer the case. The United States will not engage in war unless perhaps it is attacked and even then there will likely be blocks by those that have a different agenda. Even if the United States is attacked, even if the American people support a war declaration, it is not a given that such a declaration by Congress will be passed because it is no longer certain that Congress in this era serves as a representational body for the American people. This latter warning will be more clear this coming September 9 as Ted Cruz and Donald Trump lead a protest of the Iran Deal in Washington DC. I predict the protest will have zero effect on the Iran Deal vote in Congress and in fact as both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz have stated, the $$$ is already in transition so any protest is for symbolic reasons only.


89 posted on 09/02/2015 11:14:12 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Obama will not be impeached and convicted.

The dollars released to Iran will not be stopped.

We will not declare war on Iran.

That makes the letters to various world bodies important as notice that our law have not been followed with this treaty, and that it is, therefore, not to be considered legitimate or binding, that it is revocable.

We will at least be able, without international legal liability, be able to revoke the provisions that prevent us from blocking Iran’s becoming a nuclear power; and it will remove our requirement to protect Iran.

That is something. And, of course, we can reimpose our own sanctions.


90 posted on 09/02/2015 11:35:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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