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Obama to rename North America's highest peak as Denali on Alaska trip
Reuters ^ | August 30, 2015 | Roberta Rampton

Posted on 08/30/2015 3:19:19 PM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Verginius Rufus

“What do Alaskans who are not indigent call it? How much money do you have to have to call it something else?”

Absolutely no Alaskan resident will refer to this mountain as McKinley. It’s always been Denali regardless of race.

There’s already Denali National Park, Denali State Park, Denali State Highway, all in the Denali Borough.


81 posted on 08/30/2015 6:36:43 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: Zakeet

Beautiful day up here today. My wife and I drove an hour up the road to Talkeetna to have lunch and enjoy the view of Denali. As has been pointed out in many comments, no one up here calls the mountain McKinley except tourists, and all this does is bring the feds in line with what the state has been doing for decades. This thread sure brought out the jackholes though.


82 posted on 08/30/2015 8:19:27 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY

It was renamed in 1917. If the weenies in Alaska didn’t like that name they should have had it named back to Denali in 1959 before becoming a state.

I guess now it’s time to rename Washington D.C. back to its original name: Nacotchtank. Or roughly translated... “sewer gas”. Hell, let’s just rename everything so that we erase all the evil whiteys from American history.


83 posted on 08/30/2015 11:03:23 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

A lot of state names come from native words, tribal names.

It’s not like we’ve neglected Indian culture.


84 posted on 08/30/2015 11:08:47 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You’re right.

I’m going to start demanding people start calling Pikes Peak “Heey-otoyoo’” though. Rolls right off the tongue, don’t it???

let’s see how well that plays out.


85 posted on 08/30/2015 11:13:08 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists
The perils of designer tribalism

"....Whatever the current object of adulation— the wisdom of the East, tribal Africa, Aboriginal Australia, pre-Columbian America —the message is the same: the absolute superiority of Otherness. The Third Worldist looks to the orient, to the tribal, to the primitive not for what they really are but for their evocative distance from the reality of modern European society and values...."

"..... Since the folly of locking up native peoples in their old-time cultures is obvious, but it is tactless to say so, governments have everywhere resorted to the rhetoric of “reconciliation.” This pretends that the problem is psychological and moral: rejig the public mind, ask leading political figures to adopt a contrite demeanor and apologize for the sins of history, and all will be well. Underlying this is the assumption that we are all on the same plain of social development, divided only by misunderstanding.

But this assumption, Sandall emphasizes, “is false.” And it was recognized as false by governments everywhere until quite recently. Around 1970, the big change set in. Then, instead of attempting to help primitives enter the modern world, we were enjoined to admire them and their (suitably idealized) way of life. As Sandall observes, “the effect on indigenes of romanticizing their past has been devastating.”

If your traditonal way of life has no alphabet, no writing, no books, and no libraries, and yet you are continually told that you have a culture which is “rich,” “complex,” and “sophisticated,” how can you realistically see your place in the scheme of things? If all such hyperbole were true, who would need books or writing? Why not hang up a “Gone Fishing” sign and head for the beach? I might do that myself. In Australia, policies inspired by the Culture Cult have brought the illiterization of thousands of Aborigines whose grandparents could read and write.

The statistics are grim. Between 1965 and 1975, Sandall reports, Aborigines arrived at one college with sixth-grade reading levels; in 1990, after primary education had been handed over to local Aboriginal communities, that had fallen to third grade. Today most Aborigines arrive at the college in question almost completely illiterate.

This social disaster was the result of specific political policies. But the policies themselves were the result of a moral attitude, one that many anthropologists have actively nurtured. In part, the attitude is a reflection of the Lévi-Straussian “non-hierarchical” view of culture: the view which denies that there are important distinctions to be made between la pensée sauvage and the mind, for example, of Claude Lévi-Strauss.

In part, what we might call the “anthropological attitude” is a coefficient of the idea—also fostered by Lévi-Strauss, among many others—that culture is at bottom a “narrative,” a product of “social construction.” And the results of that development—corrosive skepticism, blasé nihilism, irresponsible relativism—have helped to place anthropology in the intellectual slum wherein it now molders. “For more than twenty years,” Sandall writes, “anthropologists have written about constructing reality as if the world and everything in it were mere artifact, about building identity as if any old self-glamourizing fiction will do, about creating the past as an enterprise more exciting than history, about inventing tradition as if traditions were as changeable as store windows.”..............

86 posted on 08/30/2015 11:20:39 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good read. Thank you!


87 posted on 08/31/2015 6:55:40 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: exit82

It does appear that due process was followed here with the Secretary of the Interior getting the final call.

There’s quite a few variant spellings there.
Also some clearly not related to Denali:
Doleika, Doleyka, Tenada, Tenda, To-lah-gah, Traleika
Traleyka


88 posted on 08/31/2015 8:23:32 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: exit82

It does appear that due process was followed here with the Secretary of the Interior getting the final call.

There’s quite a few variant spellings there.
Also some clearly not related to Denali:
Doleika, Doleyka, Tenada, Tenda, To-lah-gah, Traleika
Traleyka


89 posted on 08/31/2015 8:25:05 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: madprof98
I was thinking he’d call it Mount Obama.

Don't give him any crazy ideas.

I was thinking President Trump could just rename it "Mount Reagan."
90 posted on 08/31/2015 2:12:05 PM PDT by MockTurtle
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To: exit82; Vendome

Hmm....how often, though, does a name change go into effect on a Sunday??


91 posted on 08/31/2015 11:27:45 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack; exit82

I always called it Denali and it’s on ny list of to doos...


92 posted on 09/01/2015 1:16:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Verginius Rufus
What do Alaskans who are not indigent call it?

Even the state government has passed bills to call it Denali. Only the tourists and the outsiders, (Those living in the lower 48) called it after the man from Ohio.

After being there, it just smacks of yankee imperialism to accept the Fed. Govt. name when an existing Name was better.

Best to let it go back then fight the war.

93 posted on 09/02/2015 11:51:32 AM PDT by Dustoff45 (A good woman brings out the best in a good man! A better woman might be just what this nation needs)
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