Posted on 08/29/2015 6:17:21 PM PDT by Elderberry
The Texas Court of Appeals has determined over the last week that officials had probable cause in only five of the 177 arrests following a shootout between two rival biker gangs and local, state and federal authorities outside of a Waco restaurant in May, with just over a dozen more cases set to be reviewed over the next two weeks.
Among those still facing charges are a Bandidos chaplain and a husband and wife. Officials also found probable cause against Bandidos members Marcus Pilkington, 36, and Reginald Weathers, 43, who ascertain they are “being illegally confined” and authorities lack sufficient evidence to prove they engaged in organized criminal activity the day of the shootout, the Waco Tribune-Herald reported.
Nine men were killed during the exchange of gunfire that day and another 20 were injured. Authorities confiscated more than 475 weapons, including 151 firearms. No innocent civilians or law enforcement were injured during the shootout.
The incident remains under investigation, which is headed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, but a great deal of questions still remain, including who fired the fatal shots, which authorities have yet to disclose. However, Waco Police Chief Brent Stroman confirmed in June that a total of 12 rounds were fired by three Waco officers that day, leaving the remaining rounds at the hands of either the bikers or state and federal authorities.
At last count, 44 shell casings were recovered from the scene, including multiple .223 rounds, but ballistics evidence has not been made public at this time, despite the fact that autopsy reports were already released earlier this month, including vague descriptions of the injury-causing projectiles.
Weathers said the whole incident unfolded over a dispute about a parking space and a perceived act of disrespect, but while the melee initially involved the bikers, it’s unknown when authorities engaged.
According to Weathers, he and more than a dozen other members were outside of the Twin Peaks restaurant, while numerous members of the Cossacks, a rival biker gang, were near the patio area. A member of the Cossacks allegedly yelled at Bandidos club President David Martinez, saying he could not park in a particular space, but Weathers said he had not even pulled into the space at that point. Weathers, feeling his club president had been disrespected, then told the Cossacks member not to talk to his president that way, to which that member responded by punching Weathers in the face, he alleges.
Weathers said he covered his face in a defensive stance, but was soon pushed to the ground. Moments later, he heard gunshots, what he described as a “double tap.” Weathers was shot in the arm, but admitted that he did not know where the first shots came from because he was engaged in a fight with other bikers at the time.
Weathers said altogether the entire incident only lasted about four or five minutes.
Notice that they said the police killed nine.
Hear you go
Here you go
You will notice that the "thousands of rounds" is in quotation marks. Use of quotation marks tells the reader that the writer is simply passing along what others may have said.
Relying on my memory here, I believe a witness may have been quoted as such in the early aftermath. Regardless it was obviously hyperbole as a modicum of common sense would ascertain.
Anything else?
“You will notice that the “thousands of rounds” is in quotation marks. Use of quotation marks tells the reader that the writer is simply passing along what others may have said.”
An example of how they misrepresent the facts inorder to generate clicks. They put the quotation marks around their misleading excerption to make it look authentic.. DUH. Here is their headline. It clearly says 14 officers fired thousands and killed nine. Speaks for itself.
Waco “Twin Peaks” Shooting Updates: 14 Police Officers Fired “thousands of rounds” on 200 Bikers Killing 9, Wounding 18 –
“Relying on my memory here, I believe a witness may have been quoted as such in the early aftermath. Regardless it was obviously hyperbole as a modicum of common sense would ascertain.”
Memory check! If you dig into the link they provided you will find that they are sourcing the lawsuit by Don Carlos restaurant which says (paraphrased) bikers and police fire thousands of shots. Pure lawyer hyperbole but notice how CTH leaves out ‘bikers’.
Do you people even examine the sources you quote?
CTH, as Princess abbreviated it, did get that information from somewhere.
Don't you know from WHERE?
I would quote the pertinent portion directly from the actual legal filing (a lawsuit) which is the source, but it is available to myself only in a pdf which I cannot copy/paste from.
But here YOU go, both of you.
Here is the context which CTH provided for the "thousands of rounds" claim;
Conservative Treehouse did NOT claim that police fired thousands of rounds as if that was actual fact
Whoever it is that is the plaintiff =Don Carlos restaurant= who is suing Twin Peaks was the one who made the claim. And THAT is an actual fact.
Conservative TreeHouse accurately conveyed that information embedding link to the pdf which was the source of the claim.
Here's the link for the 3rd time, unembedded, unadorned http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/wacotrib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/eb/8eb01748-fffd-11e4-a4eb-83f98935a085/555e497a47bc9.pdf.pdf
Whether or not the police fired "thousands of rounds" I couldn't say. But that does appear (sound to be? no pun intended) to be awfully excessive. Yet still, CTH did not themselves make the claim.
This very issue I thought had been put to rest previously, by hands more capable than my own.
But here it comes popping up again.
You owe us a retraction this time, Princess gator parakeet tail-feathers.
Now hand it over, and be quick about it.
Then, after providing that retraction to all of us here, giving some form of acknowledgement instead of simply more of your usual gaming of the system, as it were, if there is anything else which you think may support the allegation you made against CTH, then bring it, and we'll all look at it, and see; is your contention accurate, and if whatever it may be matters in how it is attempted to be applied.
You never back anything up with persoective
Just fear and hatefulness dosed with some political correctness and boot love
I’ve never owned a chained wallet but I don’t fear them
Nothing new there. I posted all that and showed how CTH faked the quote the day CTH put out the article.
CTH absolutely said that police fired thousands of rounds.
CTH absolutely said that police killed nine.
“Conservative Treehouse did NOT claim that police fired thousands of rounds as if that was actual fact “
Hear is the headline. Posted as fact. I see no disclaimers.
Waco “Twin Peaks” Shooting Updates: 14 Police Officers Fired “thousands of rounds” on 200 Bikers Killing 9, Wounding 18
“Conservative TreeHouse accurately conveyed that information embedding link to the pdf which was the source of the claim.”
Duh. The link claims the shootout started among the gangsters but CTH headlines police kill nine!
Pure internet BS.
I’m not fat.
“IBTG!”
LOL! You have to be really quick to bump a bum story!
“Why can’t professional writers write? It’s “FEWER than. . .” not “LESS than.” Jeez.”
It would be even better if they would get the story correct!
Putting quotes around "thousands of rounds" doesn't relieve a "journalist" from some due diligence to write the truth. If that was was the case, Dan Rather would still be on TV since all he was doing was quoting false statements in false documents.
“The other 150 should file a law suit for wrongul prosecution and Nifong those bastards”
On what basis? The basis for a wrongful prosecution is that there was not probable cause. So far, that has not been shown.
“That is key. It is hard to conceal an M4. “
But easier to conceal a .38, 9mm or .40 of which at least seven of the bullets recovered from the dead most likely were.
“Hmmmmm, if this is true there are some Freepers who will be saddened by the news. Texas Gator for one.”
Hmmmm. if this is true .....
“This news is gonna make FR’s resident Biker hater cry.”
Or maybe ROTFLMAO!
“This sounds like great news. Now if someone can get the preacher and his wife free, that would be even better. Way to go guys. I’ll have a cold one for you all tonight.
Cold shower?
That’s a bridge too far.
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