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Lies You Will Hear As The Economic Collapse Progresses
SHTF Plan ^ | 8/27/2015 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 08/29/2015 3:04:20 AM PDT by HomerBohn

It is undeniable; the final collapse triggers are upon us, triggers alternative economists have been warning about since the initial implosion of 2008. In the years since the derivatives disaster, there has been no end to the absurd and ludicrous propaganda coming out of mainstream financial outlets and as the situation in markets becomes worse, the propaganda will only increase. This might seem counter-intuitive to many. You would think that the more obvious the economic collapse becomes, the more alternative analysts will be vindicated and the more awake and aware the average person will be. Not necessarily…

In fact, the mainstream spin machine is going into high speed the more negative data is exposed and absorbed into the markets. If you know your history, then you know that this is a common tactic by the establishment elite to string the public along with false hopes so that they do not prepare or take alternative measures while the system crumbles around their ears. At the onset of the Great Depression the same strategies were used. Consider if you’ve heard similar quotes to these in the mainstream news over the past couple months:

John Maynard Keynes in 1927: “We will not have any more crashes in our time.”

H.H. Simmons, president of the New York Stock Exchange, Jan. 12, 1928: “I cannot help but raise a dissenting voice to statements that we are living in a fool’s paradise, and that prosperity in this country must necessarily diminish and recede in the near future.”

Irving Fisher, leading U.S. economist, The New York Times, Sept. 5, 1929: “There may be a recession in stock prices, but not anything in the nature of a crash.” And on 17, 1929:“Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. I do not feel there will be soon if ever a 50 or 60 point break from present levels, such as (bears) have predicted. I expect to see the stock market a good deal higher within a few months.”

W. McNeel, market analyst, as quoted in the New York Herald Tribune, Oct. 30, 1929: “This is the time to buy stocks. This is the time to recall the words of the late J. P. Morgan… that any man who is bearish on America will go broke. Within a few days there is likely to be a bear panic rather than a bull panic. Many of the low prices as a result of this hysterical selling are not likely to be reached again in many years.”

Harvard Economic Society, Nov. 10, 1929: “… a serious depression seems improbable; [we expect] recovery of business next spring, with further improvement in the fall.”

Here is the issue – as I have ALWAYS said, economic collapse is not a singular event, it is a process. The global economy has been in the process of collapse since 2008 and it never left that path. Those who were ignorant took government statistics at face value and the manipulated bull market as legitimate and refused to acknowledge the fundamentals. Now, with markets recently suffering one of the greatest freefalls since the 2008/2009 crash, they are witnessing the folly of their assumptions, but that does not mean they will accept them or apologize for them outright. If there is one lesson I have learned well during my time in the Liberty Movement, it is to never underestimate the power of normalcy bias.

There were plenty of “up days” in the markets during the Great Depression, and this kept the false dream of a quick recovery alive for a large percentage of the American population for many years. Expect numerous “stunning stock reversals” as the collapse of our era progresses, but always remember that it is the overall TREND that matters far more than any one positive or negative trading day (unless you open down 1000 points as we did on Monday), and even more important than the trends are the economic fundamentals.

The establishment has made every effort to hide the fundamentals from the public through far reaching misrepresentations of economic stats. However, the days of effective disinformation in terms of the financial system are coming to an end. As investors and the general public begin to absorb the reality that the global economy is indeed witnessing a vast crisis scenario and acknowledges real numbers over fraudulent numbers, the only recourse of central bankers and the governments they control is to convince the public that the crisis they are witnessing is not really a crisis. That is to say, the establishment will attempt to marginalize the collapse signals they can no longer hide as if such signals are of “minimal” importance.

Just as occurred during the onset of the Great Depression, the lies will be legion the closer we come to zero hour. Here are some of the lies you will likely hear as the collapse accelerates…

The Crisis Was Caused By Chinese Contagion

The hypocrisy inherent in this lie is truly astounding, to say the least, considering it is now being uttered by the same mainstream dirtbags who only months ago were claiming that China’s financial turmoil and stock market upset were inconsequential and would have “little to no effect” on Western markets.

I specifically recall these hilarious quotes from Barbara Rockefeller in July:

“Something else that doesn’t matter much is the Chinese equity meltdown—again. China may be big and powerful, but it lacks a retail base and fund managers experienced in price variations, never mind a true rout…”

“Doom-and-gloom types have been saying for a long time that we will get a stock market rout when the Fed finally does move to raise rates. But as we wrote last week, history doesn’t bear out the thesis, not that you can really count on history when the sample size is one or two data points…”

Yes, that is a bit embarrassing. One or two data points? There have been many central bank interventions in history. When has ANY central bank or any government ever used stimulus to manipulate markets through fiat infusion and zero interest fueled stock buybacks or given government the ability to monetize its own debt, and actually been successful in the endeavor? When has addicting markets to stimulus like a heroin dealer ever led to “recovery”? When has this kind of behavior ever NOT created massive fiscal bubbles, a steady degradation of the host society, or outright calamity?

Suddenly, according to the MSM, China’s economy does affect us. Not only that, but China is to blame for all the ills of the globally interdependent economic structure. And, the mere mention that the Fed might delay the end of near zero interest rates in September by a Federal Reserve stooge recently sent markets up 600 points after a week-long bloodbath; meaning, the potential for any interest rate increase no mater how small also has wider implications for markets.

The truth is, the crash in global stocks which will undoubtedly continue over the next several months despite any delays on ZIRP by the Fed is a product of universal decay in fiscal infrastructure. Nearly every single nation on this planet, every sovereign economy, has allowed central and international banks to poison every aspect of their respective systems with debt and manipulation. This is not a “contagion” problem, it is a systemic problem to every economy across the world.

China’s crash matters not because it is causing all other economies to crash. It matters because China is the largest importer/exporter in the world and it is a litmus test for the financial health of every other country. If China is failing, it means we are not consuming, and if we are not consuming, then we must be broke. China’s crash portends our own far worse economic conditions. THAT is why western markets have been crumbling along with China’s despite the assumptions of the mainstream.

China’s Rate Cuts Will Stop The Crash

No they won’t. China has cut rates five times since last November and this has done nothing to stem the tide of their market collapse. I’m not sure why anyone would think that a new rate cut would accomplish anything besides perhaps a brief respite from the continuing avalanche.

It’s Not A Crash, It’s Just The End Of A “Market Cycle”

This is the most ignorant non-explanation I think I have ever heard. There is no such thing as a “market cycle” when your markets are supported partially or fully by fiat manipulation. Our market is in no way a free market, thus, it cannot behave like a free market, and thus, it is a stunted market with no identifiable cycles.

Swings in markets of up to 5%-6% to the downside or upside (sometimes both in a single day) are not part of a normal cycle. They are a sign of cancerous volatility that comes from an economy on the brink of disaster.

The last few years have been seemingly endless market bliss in which any idiot day trader could not go wrong as long as he “bought the dip” while Fed monetary intervention stayed the course. This is also not normal, even in the so-called “new normal”. Yes, the current equities turmoil is an inevitable result of manipulated markets, false statistics, and misplaced hopes, but it is indeed a tangible crash in the making. It is in no way an example of a predictable and non-threatening “market cycle”, and the fact that mainstream talking heads and the people who parrot them had absolutely no clue it was coming is only further evidence of this.

The Fed Will Never Raise Rates

Don’t count on it. Public statements by globalist entities like the IMF on China, for example, have argued that their current crisis is merely part of the “new normal”; a future in which stagnant growth and reduced living standards is the way things are supposed to be. I expect the Fed will use the same exact argument to support the end of zero interest rates in the U.S., claiming that the decline of American wealth and living standards is a natural part of the new economic world order we are entering.

That’s right, mark my words, one day soon the Fed, the IMF, the BIS and others will attempt to convince the American people that the erosion of the economy and the loss of world reserve status is actually a “good thing”. They will claim that a strong dollar is the cause of all our economic pain and that a loss in value is necessary. In the meantime they will, of course, downplay the tragedies that will result as the shift toward dollar devaluation smashes down on the heads of the populace.

A rate hike may not occur in September. In fact, as I predicted in my last article, the Fed is already hinting at a delay in order to boost markets, or at least slow down the current carnage to a more manageable level. But, they WILL raise rates in the near term, likely before the end of this year after a few high tension meetings in which the financial world will sit anxiously waiting for the word on high. Why would they raise rates? Some people just don’t seem to grasp the fact that the job of the Federal Reserve is to destroy the American economic system, not protect it. Once you understand this dynamic then everything the central bank does makes perfect sense.

A rate increase will occur exactly because that is what is needed to further destabilize U.S. market psychology to make way for the “great economic reset” that the IMF and Christine Lagarde are so fond of promoting. Beyond this, many people seem to be forgetting that ZIRP is still operating, yet, volatility is trending negative anyway. Remember when everyone was ready to put on their ‘Dow 20,000′ hat, certain in the omnipotence of central bank stimulus and QE infinity? Yeah…clearly that was a pipe dream.

ZIRP has run it’s course. It is no longer feeding the markets as it once did and the fundamentals are too obvious to deny.

The globalists at the Bank for International Settlements in spring openly deemed the existence of low interest rate policies a potential trigger for crisis. Their statements correlate with the BIS tendency to “predict” terrible market events they helped to create while at the same time misrepresenting the reasons behind them.

The point is, ZIRP has done the job it was meant to do. There is no longer any reason for the Fed to leave it in place.

Get Ready For QE4

Again, don’t count on it. Or at the very least, don’t expect renewed QE to have any lasting effect on the market if it is initiated.

There is truly no point to the launch of a fourth QE program, but do expect that the Fed will plant the possibility in the media every once in a while to mislead investors. First, the Fed knows that it would be an open admission that the last three QE’s were an utter failure, and while their job is to dismantle the U.S. economy, I don’t think they are looking to take immediate blame for the whole mess. QE4 would be as much a disaster as the ECB’s last stimulus program was in Europe, not to mention the past several stimulus actions by the PBOC in China. I’ll say it one more time – fiat stimulus has a shelf life, and that shelf life is over for the entire globe. The days of artificially supported markets are nearly done and they are never coming back again.

I see little advantage for the Fed to bring QE4 into the picture. If the goal is to derail the dollar, that action is already well underway as the IMF carefully sets the stage for the Yuan to enter the SDR global currency basket next year, threatening the dollar’s world reserve status. China also continues to dump hundreds of billions in U.S. treasuries inevitably leading to a rush to a dump of treasuries by other nations. The dollar is a dead currency walking, and the Fed won’t even have to print Weimar Germany-style in order to kill it.

It’s Not As Bad As It Seems

Yes, it is exactly as bad as it seems if not worse. When the Dow can open 1000 points down on a Monday and China can lose all of its gains for 2015 in the span of a few weeks despite institutionalized stimulus measures lasting years, then something is very wrong. This is not a “hiccup”. This is not a correction which has already hit bottom. This is only the beginning of the end.

Stocks are not a predictive indicator. They do not follow positive or negative fundamentals. Stocks do not crash before or during the development of an ailing economy. Stocks crash after the economy has already gone comatose. Stocks crash when the system is no longer salvageable. Since 2008, nothing in the global financial structure has been salvaged and now the central banking edifice is either unable or unwilling (I believe both) to supply the tools to allow us even to pretend that it can be salvaged. We’re going to feel the hurt now, all while the establishment tells us the whole thing is in our heads.


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To: richardtavor

And all the articles that claim the recession ended in the spring of ‘09. Demonrat is elected in Nov ‘08, takes office in late January and presto, the recession is over.
How about that.


21 posted on 08/29/2015 5:56:59 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: HomerBohn

Looking at the chart over the last weeks I get the impression that the Fed is blowing in cash at the appropriate points to the banks to buy stock and prop up the market. That can seem to work for a while but will decline in effectiveness per unit of cash with each priming of the failing pump as the gaskets disintegrate.


22 posted on 08/29/2015 5:59:16 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: DaveA37

EBT is up.


23 posted on 08/29/2015 6:00:43 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: jsanders2001

“all of us commonfolk have seen the price of meat, eggs, and milk rise dramtically ...eggs are up 3 times, meat has damn near doubled or more, milk is up at least 50% and the cost of everything else has gone through the roof as well. . . I lay all of this on O’s shoulders.”

Very true today and it was true in 2012 yet we heard nothing about inflation from Romney and the GOP. In 1992, Bill Clinton and James Carville were on television everyday saying the economy was in the worst condition since the great depression. With that untruthful message Bill Clinton brought down a sitting president. Carville knew people vote their pocketbooks.

Why doesn’t the GOP take the economic ball and run with it? They should be pounding Obama and the Dems everyday with the cost of healthcare, cost of electricity, the fact ice cream is no longer packaged in a 1/2 gallon container, higher taxes reducing paychecks, etc. etc. Inflation is potentially the most powerful issue for a campaign yet the GOP ignored it in 2012 when the price of gasoline was more than double what it was when Obama took office. The GOP ignores inflation, immigration, loss of jobs to foreign trade, the deficit, etc. What does the party stand for?


24 posted on 08/29/2015 6:01:21 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine; HomerBohn
All blessings bestowed on any nation (material, economic, bounty, etc) come from Almighty God. He is the source and fountain of all outpouring of fruit, growth, and abundance.

The main difference between America circa 1929 and America 2015 is that today, we are much, much less a Christian nation as we were then. Even Hoover and then FDR invoked the name of God and asked the nation to pray and ask for His blessing. America has sacrificed more children to Satan through abortion than ancient Assyria or Persia. We have abandoned and are cursing Israel. Our courts have crossed the line and struck down God's law on marriage, while at the same time celebrating despicable perversion. Obama lit up the highest house in our land after that decision with the rainbow, a symbol given by God in the wake of terrible judgment of Noah's day, and which is used by homosexuality to mock God.

Yes, it's not 1929. It's much, much, much worse. We are overripe for judgment. God does not have to act. That is His call. But l think dark days may be ahead for America.

25 posted on 08/29/2015 6:10:40 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: HomerBohn

How many years have we been hearing this? Makes me think “Glenn Beck”

How many times and for how many years did Beck keep coming out telling us he had a big big big story that was going to shake the foundation of everything we knew? I can tell you how long, long enough to get filthy rich and be able to actually mock those who made him that way.

This is not 1929 and the percentage of the change in the markets is what needs to be followed. So many factors effect the economy to state you have one symptom or two and from this you know exactly what will happen proves how little you understand the economy.

Call goldline and buy some gold that should ensure you can watch your neighbors starve to death while you sit and watch Bruce Jenner transform on TV eating your non-gmo food that is going to pop up out of the ground if you use your credit card.

Never mind reality.

Man is no more or less depraved today than he has been for his entire existence. Many conservatives claim to be Christians yet apparently can’t afford a Bible to read.


26 posted on 08/29/2015 6:12:17 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: HomerBohn

A market correction has been expected for a year or more. It will be volatile for a while, but it will eventually settle down.


27 posted on 08/29/2015 6:30:01 AM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: HomerBohn

Fear-monger much?


28 posted on 08/29/2015 6:37:49 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: jsanders2001
"Tires way up as well."

Was in my local Les Schwab a few days ago getting my ATV trailer tires balanced and a new spare. Saw a steady stream of people coming in to make payments on their tires. Then it dawned on me that I have been seeing that for the last several years every time I'm in there.

Never saw that in years past.

29 posted on 08/29/2015 6:47:13 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: SkyPilot

Post of the day.


30 posted on 08/29/2015 6:53:15 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Soul of the South
Why doesn’t the GOP take the economic ball and run with it?

They tried that against Clinton and got accused of "talking down the economy." The charge stuck, and now they are scared to try it again.

31 posted on 08/29/2015 6:58:36 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: HomerBohn

Whenever someone claims “its undeniable” - whether its about global warming or the stock market - your BS detector should be off the scale.


32 posted on 08/29/2015 7:23:27 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bigbob
When ever I hear someone say that glowbull warming is “ settled science” I feel like screaming!
33 posted on 08/29/2015 7:25:49 AM PDT by Ditter ( God Bless Texas!)
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To: Comment Not Approved
Yup. A set of decent tires for a smaller car can be over $500 installed. My SUV is about $1,000 for Michelin. Used tires on Craigslist get snapped up almost immediately. There is no inflation/s
34 posted on 08/29/2015 7:31:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: HomerBohn
There’s no effective way for the layman to predict what markets will do with any degree of accuracy. All we see are trends that may or may not mean anything. However, when you see 1000 point swings which are way out of the norm, there is a tendency to become wary. Stability and predictability are good. Erratic market behavior is a red flag signaling something is quite wrong.

True - with all the wild yo-yoing, it might as well be renamed the Duncan market.

We now have more QEs followed by Roman numerals than the Brits ever laid ownership to and it's really odd how one factor can cause a 300-500 point drop and the next day they will use the same factor to "explain" a 600 point gain.

35 posted on 08/29/2015 7:32:02 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: arthurus

Last Monday it was evident. someone was swimming upstream and ran out of $$$$ to keep the “rally” going.


36 posted on 08/29/2015 7:33:02 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: paulcissa
Thanks. One of the weirdest things about where we are now is that we have (supposedly) all this debt. "The world is drowning in debt.") Ok, so where are the traditional symptoms of that debt? If the Fed has printed so damn much money, we shouldn't have a LITTLE bit of inflation in food, some products, but massive, double-digit, hyper-inflation. Can't see it anywhere. Gold, silver, other commodities? Nuthin. Energy. Nuthin. If anything the price of energy is collapsing.

China's devaluation is one small sign of inflation---who knows? Maybe it's the first big sign.

But (and I'm no economist, which is probably a good thing) I've been working on a theory for about 10 years, namely that we haven't begun to pump the money supply up to where it has caught up to REAL productivity gains.

Traditional measurements of productivity used to go like this: you have a rotary phone selling for $40. Now a new phone comes along, dials faster, better audio, and it sells for $50. That's a productivity increase of more than 20%. (or, say, you can sell it for $30 but sell more, however you want to measure the traditional productivity increases of output per hour).

But here comes a cell phone. This isn't just a phone though. It's a camera, a calculator, a GPS, a game, a video device, a calorie counter, and on and on. So you can't just say it's productivity increase is x over a phone. You would have to add ALL the previous functions it now does and factor in THAT productivity. How much time, for example, do people spend working on planes because now they have iPad/laptop capability? How much business time do you spend in your car talking on your phone, how much do you save by not pulling over reading maps, etc?

In short, we may have had a phenomenal technological revolution that the "traditional" accounting measures haven't yet caught up to, and if so, the money supply has, in fact, lagged behind. Say it's been a $17 TRILLION increase over the past 10 years . . . .?

37 posted on 08/29/2015 7:33:09 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SkyPilot
And....If children survive the womb, the majority of the nation's children are sent into the government's godless Temples of Indoctrination ( misnamed “public schools”).

1) Million of Christians can show up to buy a Chick-fil-A sandwich but can't seem to figure out how to end abortion? Really?

2) In many, many counties and even whole state, if Christians removed their children from the godless government schools, the entire evil system of K-12 indoctrination would immediately collapse. These schools are still open. Why?

38 posted on 08/29/2015 7:39:31 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: LS
Humm.... interesting theory. If true(and I am not saying it isn't) then most of those gains would be in Chinese imports. The “service” economy in the US should be a drag on it since it doesn't make any tangible items. When I mine gold I am trading time/labor for something that is lasting. When I sell life insurance I generate capital for the company to buy investments. Not sure which is truly better for the US. I have heard econs say that it doesn't matter but my intuition says that it does.
39 posted on 08/29/2015 7:44:16 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The GOP is good at being scared of pretty much everything.


40 posted on 08/29/2015 7:54:52 AM PDT by jospehm20
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