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7th Circuit Court: Illegal Immigrants Have Second Amendment Rights Too
Breitbart ^

Posted on 08/27/2015 3:09:41 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

In a case regarding a specific gun control law which bans “unauthorized aliens” (illegal immigrants) from possessing firearms in the United States, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit did the work of a contortionist by upholding the law while also pointing out that they “see no principled way to carve out the Second Amendment and say that the unauthorized (or maybe all noncitizens) are excluded.”

In a word—illegal immigrants have Second Amendment rights too.

The case was titled United States v. Meza-Rodriguez, and the decision was handed down on August 20.

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To: DoughtyOne
Illegal immigrants have no right whatsoever.

Then we should simply enslave them, then exterminate them when they're worked out.

21 posted on 08/27/2015 3:39:48 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Regulator; DoughtyOne

“Taken to their illogical extremes, the idiotic things that are being conjured up to accommodate the illegal invasion lead directly to the dissolution of the nation.”

That is the whole idea.Rape & pillage make a quick buck, then move on to the next country.


22 posted on 08/27/2015 3:40:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: shalom aleichem

Sure, illegals have the full protection of the constitution! Why don’t you list for us some of their other “rights”?


23 posted on 08/27/2015 3:40:11 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: Red in Blue PA

Saying it don’t make it so.


24 posted on 08/27/2015 3:42:09 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
As for the background to the case, Wood explained that “Mariano Meza-Rodriguez, a citizen of Mexico, was arrested in August 2013… [and found to be] carrying a .22 caliber cartridge.” Because he did not have “documentation” to show that he was in the United States lawfully, he was charged as being in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5), which forbids illegal immigrants from possessing firearms in the United States.

Wait ... he was arrested for carrying "a .22 caliber cartridge”?

I suppose if illegals are free-range catch-and release now under Obama, they need something, but this smells just a little of bogosity.

25 posted on 08/27/2015 3:47:18 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: Red in Blue PA
7th Circuit Court: Illegal Immigrants Have Second Amendment Rights Too

If only we could keep them in close proximity to Judges which believe this.

26 posted on 08/27/2015 3:53:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Sacajaweau
A bazillion decisions have been tested and overturned.

Look at something big...like Prohibition.


Prohibition wasn't overturned by a court decision. It was created by a Constitutional amendment and repealed by a Constitutional amendment,
27 posted on 08/27/2015 4:11:54 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Red in Blue PA

The liberal position: Illegal aliens have Second Amendment rights, but real Americans do not. I will never trust a liberal.


28 posted on 08/27/2015 4:15:37 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: NYAmerican

anyone on US soil has US constitutional rights. Including all the Gitmo inmates if Obama gets his wish and enrolls them into US jails, colleges or neighborhoods. That is WHY we have Gitmo. It is for enemy combatants. It is NOT on US soil.

Obama is a dumn son of a bitch and bastard, but I digress.

I am just reciting the law to you. Not asking you to like it.

Shalom


29 posted on 08/27/2015 4:16:45 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Red in Blue PA

An invading army is just a bunch of illegal aliens exercising their 2A rights?


30 posted on 08/27/2015 4:29:20 PM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: Red in Blue PA

illegal immigrants have Second Amendment rights, TOTAL BS.

Illegals have NO rights, other than the right to get the hell out of my country!!!


31 posted on 08/27/2015 4:35:42 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: Regulator

I agree.

No it’s not. But then there are people it was written to protect, and people it wasn’t written to protect.

This is a U. S. document seeking to keep government small and with minimal power, and citizens with God given rights and all the power.

Did the framers intend foreign nationals to have equal rights to full fledged citizens? Were they to have all the power vs our limited federal government?

Preposterous.

No.


32 posted on 08/27/2015 4:43:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

There are people it was written to protect, and people it wasn’t written to protect.

This is a U. S. document seeking to keep government small and with minimal power, and citizens with God given rights and all the power.

Did the framers intend foreign nationals to have equal rights to full fledged citizens? Were they to have all the power vs our limited federal government?

Preposterous.

No.


33 posted on 08/27/2015 4:43:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I hear ya...


34 posted on 08/27/2015 4:44:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yup


35 posted on 08/27/2015 4:45:09 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Nep Nep
An invading army is just a bunch of illegal aliens exercising their 2A rights?

That's what they're saying.

Not just laughable, but insane

36 posted on 08/27/2015 4:46:29 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: DoughtyOne
Illegal immigrants have no right whatsoever.

I suppose you can think that if you don't believe that "all men are created equal".

37 posted on 08/27/2015 4:54:11 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have no problem at all with “granting” 2A rights to illegal immigrants. The right to self defense is a God given right. I have a problem with the state trying to make people defenseless, creating easy targets, creating victims out of thin air and entire neighborhoods ripe for violent criminality because the sociopaths will know they are unarmed.


38 posted on 08/27/2015 5:03:45 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: BfloGuy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3330009/posts?page=33#33


39 posted on 08/27/2015 5:04:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Ooo, this gets funky.

“Yet the 7th Circuit upheld the District Court’s ruling—which upheld Meza-Rodriguez’s indictment—on the grounds that “the Second Amendment does not preclude certain restrictions on the right to bear arms, including the one imposed by § 922(g)(5).”

(g) It shall be unlawful for any person—
(5) who, being an alien—
(A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States...

“...to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce...”

So in effect the court is saying that the *constitution* permits illegal aliens to have guns and ammunition, *but* FDRs perversion of the Interstate Commerce Clause means that he can have his 2nd Amendment rights taken away!

Oh, man, this is just so wrong in so many ways.


40 posted on 08/27/2015 5:10:29 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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