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Yes, Trump does mean the end of the GOP
The Washington Post ^ | August 27th, 2015 | By Tom Toles

Posted on 08/27/2015 9:25:05 AM PDT by Mariner

Lindsay Graham, as part of the taunt-war he’s having with Donald Trump, says that if Trump wins the GOP nomination, it will mean the end of the Republican Party. He’s right, but Trump means the end of the Republican Party even if he doesn’t get the nomination.

I wrote a few weeks ago that Trump represents the Jump the Shark moment of the party. The GOP has been a rickety, unsustainable contraption of policy prescriptions that don’t add up, don’t really represent the coalition’s actual members, and is based on a backward-looking set of views appealing to an ever-shrinking demographic. It has been held together this long with an ever-more-obfuscatory confabulation of misdirection, packaged in buzzwords and amped with anger. It was overdue to come unglued.

Trump is a disruptor of the most lethal sort. His blunt language is shattering the brittle framework of GOP nostrums that forever promise things they don’t deliver. He is revealing the basic discordance between party leaders and rank and file. He is like the rogue catalyst that breaks one bond, then moves on to break the next and the next. There’s no easy way to stop this, though the party establishment is frantically trying to think of one.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; 2016issues; theend; trump2016
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To: VerySadAmerican
"The author is right. If Trump is not the nominee there’s no way his supporters will go back to the rinos. Unless the nominee is Cruz."

But Cruz will not win. He's too nice a guy. He has no fangs. He pulls his punches. He's not a street fighter like Trump is. But he would be the perfect guy waiting in the wings.

America's need for a statesman must wait. We have a war to win first. Trump's the only SOB who will take the fight to the enemy, kick him in the scrotum, curb-stomp his head in, and clear out the vermin. Then Cruz can come in with his hands still clean.

41 posted on 08/27/2015 9:53:45 AM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Mariner

The author doesn’t understand that the GOP is at war with actual Conservatism.


42 posted on 08/27/2015 9:54:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (RINOs EARNED TRUMP! I prefer Cruz, but someone has to kick their A$$!)
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To: Mariner

Trump is a symptom of the demise of the GOP, not the cause. What all the million dollar consultants fail to see, but the lowly bloggers get perfectly is that the base despises the leadership to the point it is willing to accept a candidate of questionable ideology as long as he is willing to destroy the powers that be.


43 posted on 08/27/2015 9:55:07 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Yep. The leadership has proven it time and again. They both need replacing and when each body had the chance, they screwed it up.


44 posted on 08/27/2015 9:56:02 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

So right. We have had 2 parties saying/doing the same thing. They only care about $$$ and power and ruining this country. It is way past time for people to get that through their minds—if they have any.


45 posted on 08/27/2015 9:57:17 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: Mariner
I would like to say that this implosion will be good for the party, and good for real conservatives and good for the nation. And it might. Or it may be a lurch into the rank nativism that is gaining strength in Europe.

A Handy Glossary to Unpack the Meaning Of the Above

Nativism: when conservatives defend themselves against politics by immigration.

Rank Nativism: when conservatives really mean it.

Conservative: racist.

Racist: a person who is winning an argument with a liberal.


46 posted on 08/27/2015 9:57:51 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Well said, Sir.


47 posted on 08/27/2015 9:59:47 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner
Yes, Trump does mean the end of the GOP

Lefties and Conservatives both say "GOOD!!!!!!"

48 posted on 08/27/2015 10:00:04 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Just remember... the “Tom Toles” (whoever the hell this “writer” PR front man for the left libs is) of Reagan’s day... said the SAME things about Reagan.

We change the GOPe from within. Call them when they are lickspittles for the leftist Establishment. Call them, when they are NOT following a Republican conservative platform they voted to support. Call them on everything— constantly. Make the real money people pay attention to Conservatism.

This is what the lib media frauds fear most— they tell us this every day, so it is easy to follow. Repubs are just supposed to be “office holders” and not be “In Power” and powerful in their publicly elected offices. Hence— McConnell and Boehner, lap dog lick spittles who have already been paid off. Follow the money. In McConnell’s case it is his Taiwanese wife’s dad’s Asian ship owner/shipping firm and it’s business of hauling cheap crap from china for wal-mart. In Boehner— they’ve blackmailed him, literally because his daughter is married to a rasta-man jamaican posse controlled doper. For real. The strings go very far up. For dem example— obamaumao visits harry “mob bagman” reid in... Las Vegas. Comes in AF-1 and leaves with briefcases of cash. Secret service can say nothing, of course. Same as what hitlery did all over the world— in the diplomatic pouch US owned/paid for aircraft.

How it is in Bolshevia.


49 posted on 08/27/2015 10:00:50 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mariner

Re: GOP

“He’s dead, Jim”

Every one of us came to (will come to) that painful place, some years earlier than others. Each has a different trigger.


50 posted on 08/27/2015 10:02:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Mariner
Cruz too is a creature of the GOP.
Just look at who contributes to his PACs.
There his principal allegiance will be.

Not everyone will obey someone just because they gave a few dollars. We conservatives gave piles of time and money to the GOP over the past 24 years, and they certainly haven't given a Tinker's Damn about our wishes when we sent the money.

51 posted on 08/27/2015 10:02:52 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Mariner

Be careful what you wish for WashCompost.

You may have found neo-cons and `moderate’ GOPers distasteful, but you’re gonna hate what replaces them .... and that would be hardcore, extreme, arch, ultra-right, `take-no-prisoners’-hard-a**e*-who-can’t-`work-with-you’-because-we-can’t-stand-you conservatives.

Like us.


52 posted on 08/27/2015 10:03:47 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

...and either Trump or Cruz (or both) will finally bury it.

‘Cause it STINKS to high Heaven.


53 posted on 08/27/2015 10:03:48 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: John S Mosby
"Call them on everything— constantly"

We HAVE been calling them on everything. We have been pleading at their gates for decades.

Occasionally they put up a show vote, that's it.

Time to burn it down.

54 posted on 08/27/2015 10:05:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

If this is possible, I say Trump has done the country the most wonderful of services!


55 posted on 08/27/2015 10:06:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Mariner
The truth is that the GOP has been on this glidepath ever since the Trent Lott power-sharing deal with Democrats after Jim Jeffords switched sides. Democrats learned that Republicans will agree to ANYTHING if pressured enough, and they haven't looked back ever since.

-PJ

56 posted on 08/27/2015 10:06:57 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: b4its2late

There is only one way to save the Republican party as well as the Republic. And it requires everyone giving up something.

The nominee must be Cruz. The VP must be Bush. The Conservatives will come out for Cruz, Bush gets in line as successor, we get 8 years to put the country back together and hopefully in 8 years another Conservative steps up to take on Bush.

It’s the only way it will work. While I hate the establishment, they still are more powerful than either Trump, Cruz or Conservatism. We shouldn’t kid ourselves. The compromise works for everyone.


57 posted on 08/27/2015 10:07:25 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (2016 - Jews for Cruz)
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To: Mariner

“The GOP has been a rickety, unsustainable contraption of policy prescriptions that don’t add up, don’t really represent the coalition’s actual members, and is based on a backward-looking set of views appealing to an ever-shrinking demographic. It has been held together this long with an ever-more-obfuscatory confabulation of misdirection, packaged in buzzwords and amped with anger. It was overdue to come unglued.”

Pretty much nails it.


58 posted on 08/27/2015 10:08:48 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Mariner; hosepipe

Why doesn’t this writer say such complimentary words about Cruz?


59 posted on 08/27/2015 10:08:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Qwackertoo
RNC has not represented me in a LONG TIME.

I've not made the point in a long time, so here goes ....

There is no point in turning "the RNC" into a bogeyman. The national Republican Party umbrella organization is confederational in nature. The RNC (as an actual body, as opposed to a generic term of abuse) has three members -- the State Chairman, National Committeeman, and National Committeewoman -- from each of the state and territorial parties. These folks assemble as a group a few times a year (two, four?), electing an executive committee and a national chairman to run the day to day operation.

The state parties run most of their stuff themselves. The county parties are largely automoous within their counties. The national body is necessary to do a few things for which a national body is required: run a national convention every four years to select (when conventions still did the selecting) or ratify (in our modern primary dominated system) the national presidential nominee.

This structure is established under the rules adopted by the Republican National Convention, which is the ultimate governing body of the party assembled.

If you do not like the chairman of the RNC, take it up with your state chairman, national committeeman and national committeewoman. They're the ones who elected him.

If you think your three state delegates to the RNC are GOPe, take it up with your county chairman and local activists. Every one of the delegates is elected by his state party. Here we do it in the Republican primary. I assume methods vary around the country; some may do it in the state conventions or caucuses. But the point is, they are all ELECTED. Ultimately, by US.

Such a system gives the Republican Party of Rhode Island organizational power at the confederational level equivalent to the Republican Party of Texas. That is probably the root of the complaint. Perhaps we should have a rules change to significantly expand the RNC and weight representation according to each state's Republican turnout. I'm open to that discussion.

The point is, we are not a top-down, Leninist party, with the national committee dictating orders to the rank and file. We are a confederational party, with a leadership elected by US. A lot of the people doing the complaining need to stop complaining and start paying attention to who is elected, and when.

60 posted on 08/27/2015 10:09:27 AM PDT by sphinx
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