Posted on 08/27/2015 4:47:09 AM PDT by don-o
Count me in too! I think what was done here by LE is criminal and I hope Whacko has to pony up huge cash settlements when all of the lawsuits have been won. A city bankruptcy would be a fitting end. And big time jail sentences for the cops involved.
So due process doesn’t exist?
Make an actual arrest, follow procedure.
What, the bikers weren’t “actually” arrested?
There was a police ambush shooting first.
You said you have no problem with ambush shootings by leo.
“There was a police ambush shooting first.”
According to who???
“You said you have no problem with ambush shootings by leo.”
No, I said I have no problem with police “ambushing” (and I did use quotes, specifically to highlight that I was using YOUR term sarcastically) people who start shootouts in broad daylight.
Yeah, you have no problem with suspending due process for people who never went to trial or were proven criminals.
You determined all on your own that they were all gangsters and guilty based off the strength of what now?
“Yeah, you have no problem with suspending due process for people who never went to trial or were proven criminals.”
How was due process suspended exactly?
I’m still waiting for you to tell us how you know there was an “ambush shooting by leo”. Where is your source for that information?
I think it’s only fair that if agents of the State engage in 4GW action, that everyone else join the party.
Oh, don’t be coy, why don’t you come out and say in plain English what you want to do?
Fair enough.
Good for the goose, good for the gander.
How about reading my post and your initial response?
Words mean things, or would you like to clarify your statement of “I want the police to “get away” with stopping anyone who starts a massive brawl and shootout in the middle of a mall parking lot.”
Word is, the cops started shooting first.
Wouldn’t be the first time that happened in the Waco area.
And... Everyone was guilty immediately without trial by your determination?
And excessive bail is prohibited by the Constitution.
“Words mean things, or would you like to clarify your statement of “I want the police to “get away” with stopping anyone who starts a massive brawl and shootout in the middle of a mall parking lot.””
Not really, I think it’s pretty clear, isn’t it?
What do you think the cops should do if two gangs start shooting each other in broad daylight in a mall parking lot? Get on a loudspeaker and ask them nicely to stop?
“Word is, the cops started shooting first.”
More weasel word BS. WHO told you that? Where is your source???
“Wouldn’t be the first time that happened in the Waco area.”
Actually, if you’re referring to the Branch Davidians, they shot at the cops first, or did you forget that?
“And... Everyone was guilty immediately without trial by your determination?”
Never said that, did I? Why would you assume that?
“And excessive bail is prohibited by the Constitution.”
Okay, but if that is your only legitimate complaint (it seems to be), I can’t see what all the fuss is over. They had bail hearings, the bails were reduced, so the system seems to be working as intended.
“Never said that, did I? “
Uh, you did.
Post 14 and 16.
“Okay, but if that is your only legitimate complaint (it seems to be), I can’t see what all the fuss is over. They had bail hearings, the bails were reduced, so the system seems to be working as intended.”
Working as intended would be an actual investigation doing actual honest police work, documenting actual proof, then making arrests.
Not military style ambushes.
“Uh, you did.
Post 14 and 16.”
Quotes or it didn’t happen.
“Working as intended would be an actual investigation doing actual honest police work, documenting actual proof, then making arrests.”
When police witness felonies being committed right in front of their eyes, that is all they need to make an arrest, buddy. I’m not sure what planet you have been living on all these years, but that is probable cause accepted in every court in the land.
“Not military style ambushes.”
ACCORDING TO WHO? WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE THE COPS SHOT FIRST? ANSWER THE QUESTION!
(I think we know why you are so evasive on that though)
“Quotes or it didn’t happen!”
You don’t recall saying this:”I want the police to “get away” with stopping anyone who starts a massive brawl and shootout in the middle of a mall parking lot.” “I have no problem with police “ambushing” gangsters who started a broad daylight shootout, endangering innocent bystanders.
As for the bail, cry me a friggin river. Do you also protest when mafiosos get high bail amounts set?” <====you determined that everyone was guilty already, gangsters, mafioso, and started the incident?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3329743/posts?page=14#14
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3329743/posts?page=16#16
“You don’t recall saying this”
Oh I do, but I did not say in those quotes what you are alleging that I said, which is why I demanded you produce the quotes, since they demonstrate that fact.
“you determined that everyone was guilty already, gangsters, mafioso, and started the incident?”
No, just because you keep repeating that I determined everyone was guilty that doesn’t mean I ever said it. I’m sure you’d be more comfortable arguing with your strawman, but it ain’t going to happen.
As for who started the incident, YOU are the one who is certain, apparently without any evidence whatsoever, since you refuse to produce any, that the cops started the incident. I can produce evidence to back up my opinion that the bikers started it, because ALL the evidence we have backs that version up and NONE backs up your version. However, I see no need to do that since you refuse to produce any evidence for your opinion.
“Why, I think that is quite unnecessary.”
Of course you would. Coming out and saying clearly what you are advocating would take some guts.
So you didn’t say what you did say.
Okay, good to know!
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