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US Federal Reserve still expected to raise interest rates
The Irish Times ^ | Wed, Aug 26, 2015 | Simon Carswell

Posted on 08/26/2015 5:12:03 AM PDT by expat_panama

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To: grumpygresh
The insiders individually profit by knowing what is going to happen.

That wasn't your original claim.

but the money supply would only be available to the insiders.

No longer the case?

41 posted on 08/26/2015 8:16:04 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: expat_panama
My real life experience is that if savings are paying 3% interest (for example) money will double in approx. 24 years, using the "rule of 72". It incentivizes people to save for future planning. I also know that inflation theoretically wipes the money out, but not being conservative about spending and saving leaves people with nothing.

The reason FDIC insurance on CD savings was passed after the depression was for that very reason, so average folks could put money aside and feel secure that it wouldn't be lost if there would be another economic meltdown.

I don't know if I'm unique among those who have to watch the budget. I'd be MORE likely to invest a little more in the stock market if savings were gaining interest. That's because I'd know how much to plan spending my minimal savings. I'd probably increase my weekly budget allotment and spend that money locally (restaurants, movies etc). I just don't see any evidence that 0% interest on savings encourages anything except turning Wall Street into a casino where only the biggest gamblers win. It has people turning to economic schemes that might or might not benefit them but sure are good for those who manage their money.

42 posted on 08/26/2015 8:26:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The monetary expansion will be limited to the stock market. Of course, not all those in the market are insiders. However, those likely to profit individually are the insiders. Moreover, as the middle and lower upper class shrink, the relative contribution from small investors declines as the contribution from large institutional investors increase (big banks, large multi-national corporations, governments). Increasingly, the stock market is becoming a game only for the big boys.

My main contention is that monetary expansion will be limited to the stock market and it will not easily get out into the general economy in the form of consumer spending. That way, we won’t see that much inflation. Raising interest rates also reduces money velocity and supports the dollar.

My other point is that the large market swing is ideal for insiders such as big banks and pols.

That’s it.


43 posted on 08/26/2015 8:37:29 AM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: grumpygresh
The monetary expansion will be limited to the stock market.

When they buy bonds, why is the monetary expansion limited to insiders? Or were you mistaken?

44 posted on 08/26/2015 8:44:37 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Sequoyah101
We have to get back to 4% but can’t because we can’t afford the interest on the debt at that rate.

Yes, there's another big part of the problem.
Also, if a Republican is elected president in '16 and the rates go up then, he/she will get the blame for the continued stagnation when the fault is all the Dims & 0bama's past spending and regulations. You can count on that happening!

45 posted on 08/26/2015 9:54:11 AM PDT by citizen (America is-or was-The Great Melting Pot. JEB won't even speak American in his own home. NO Bush!!)
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If the fed does a rate hike and the economy tanks the fed gets the blame by the el-presidente. If they don’t and the economy tanks what can they do, no bullets left in their imaginary gun. The fed has allowed all the BS economic data shoveled the last 6 yrs. from el-presidente’s regime to go out as gospel knowing it was a lie and backed themselves into a corner.

I had a liberal friend argue, the economy is great, 5.4% unemployment! I said really, you believe that with 94 million eligible people out of work and layoffs everywhere, do the math the numbers don’t add up. Are you going to believe what el-presidente tells you or your own eyes? They believe their beloved el-presidente in the presidential palace, he would never lie!


46 posted on 08/26/2015 11:27:15 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Not gonna happen unless the Fed wants to crash the whole system.

Not scheduled to happen until February, 2017. And then only if a Republican wins.


47 posted on 08/26/2015 12:14:01 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat_panama

Another “dead cat bounce” today? Or was the bottom Monday?


48 posted on 08/26/2015 12:42:33 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: sarge83

Your friend knows 0bama doesn’t lie. He knows because 0bama says he doesn’t lie. /s


49 posted on 08/26/2015 12:50:38 PM PDT by citizen (America is-or was-The Great Melting Pot. JEB won't even speak American in his own home. NO Bush!!)
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