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Break for the border: Thousands of migrants storm police lines to reach Macedonia from Greece
Daily Mail ^ | Tuesday, Aug 25th 2015 | IMOGEN CALDERWOOD and SIMON TOMLINSON

Posted on 08/24/2015 8:30:14 PM PDT by annalex

Break for the border: Thousands of migrants storm police lines and leap over razor wire to reach Macedonia from Greece


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; macedonia
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To: Kolokotronis

As you might know, I was in a refugee camp in Lavrio in 1987. There was a steady supply of refugees from Iraq, Iran and Syria even then. Many of them Kurd resistance, convalescing of wounds. Another contingent was refugees from the Soviet block, mostly Albanians and Bulgarian Turks. It was believed that most of those attempting to enter Greece were turned back at the first police station up north; those arriving to Lavrio had the good sense of hiding all the way till they reached Athens.

Clashes with police were frequent, as were knife fights between different factions among the Middle Eastern refugees.

This, however, is an order of magnitude more severe. How did these people manage to get from the islands and the Aegean coast to the Macedonian border? It appears that Greece, aware that it cannot seal its coastline, just watched them trek northward, hoping for the outcome like this.


21 posted on 08/25/2015 8:35:41 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

” It appears that Greece, aware that it cannot seal its coastline, just watched them trek northward, hoping for the outcome like this.”

I expect you are right. God willing they’ll all end up in Germany!


22 posted on 08/25/2015 10:04:32 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis
God willing they’ll all end up in Germany!

Careful what you wish for. In a few years there would be no one left to bail you out. Again. Never mind the very un-Christian sentiment of your post.

23 posted on 08/25/2015 11:43:06 AM PDT by Moltke
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To: Moltke; annalex

“Careful what you wish for. In a few years there would be no one left to bail you out. Again.”

After what the Germans did to Greece in WWII, to my relatives in my maternal village, the Huns can pay for an eternity and still owe. As for bail outs, they bailed out Goldman Sacks and maybe 50 super wealthy families and thus themselves and their fellow travelers. We don’t care about them at all.


24 posted on 08/25/2015 1:43:42 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

Well, good luck when all the “Hun” tourists clue in to that sentiment. No one needs to spend their money where they’re not welcome...but I suppose with all the high-tech industry Greece has that matters little...


25 posted on 08/25/2015 2:31:11 PM PDT by Moltke
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To: Moltke

“Well, good luck when all the “Hun” tourists clue in to that sentiment.”

You mean the middle aged, over weight, topless, drunken women or the loud mouthed, drunken, pot bellied, speedo wearing slobs they travel with; those spawn of the Master race?

“No one needs to spend their money where they’re not welcome.”

OK...soon enough the Mohammedans won’t let them leave the Reich anyway and somehow the Greeks will survive...likely easier than we survived their massacres 75 years ago!


26 posted on 08/25/2015 2:45:28 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: kearnyirish2
I don't think we had a viable choice not to go in to Iraq. We had essentially been at war with them since the end of the 1st Gulf War and saddam never lived up to the terms of the ceasefire and fired on coalition aircraft regularly. Don't forget Oil For Food or that saddam had been cooperating with al queda since the mid ninties.

Feel free to disagree but after the surge Iraq was relatively stable.

27 posted on 08/25/2015 2:50:31 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: annalex

“”Very dramatic scenes.””

Very and heartbreaking to see the children. Who can look at these and not think of their own children or grandchildren? We used to live in a country where something like this wouldn’t even be thought of here but now after 2008 and 2012 - who can guarantee that we won’t see the same thing?


28 posted on 08/25/2015 4:30:35 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Eagles6

The US has no means to occupy or change a Muslim country; we just lost wars in two of them (Iraq & Afghanistan), and the outcome was inevitable. The last time Iraq was stable was when our former ally Saddam Hussein ruled it.


29 posted on 08/25/2015 6:16:52 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
We lost because soetoro surrendered. The West has been fighting islam for 1300 years and we give up the fight they will rule the world by the sword.

For the West to survive we need a leader that will do what needs to be done.

30 posted on 08/25/2015 6:34:44 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Kolokotronis; Moltke

I can’t share the anti-German sentiment at all. The Russians, in particular, have much to learn from Germany and much to admire in her courageous people.


31 posted on 08/25/2015 10:13:48 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Eagles6

To defeat Islam requires an effort along the lines of WWII - and I don’t see that happening when even Bush II called Islam a “religion of peace”. FDR never referred to Shintoism as such...


32 posted on 08/26/2015 3:02:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I agree.


33 posted on 08/26/2015 4:57:05 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eagles6
For the West to survive we need a leader that will do what needs to be done

And that is?

I proposed a serious war plan right here prior to Bush's address to Congress on September 16, 2001. That plan entailed raising an 80-division expeditionary force and a military alliance with India, to conquer Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Pakistan, with American military governors in Riyadh, Aden, and Islamabad after the reversion of the Punjab to India, and a fifty-year occupation paid for by oil resources reverting to their pre-1973 legal owners.

Instead, we got a Vietnam war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now that we are much weaker, please outline your war plan to "do what needs to be done".

34 posted on 08/26/2015 5:05:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Jim Noble

Your plan would work. I was thinking of a WWII type scenario. The tdestruction of mecca and medina would make things easier.


35 posted on 08/26/2015 12:26:14 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eagles6
destruction of mecca and medina

You're kidding, right?

Who's terrorist then?

36 posted on 08/26/2015 8:26:49 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
You can clear the people out. It's the religious symbolism that must be destroyed. islam is a cancer that must be eradicated if the West is to survive.

They will destroy NYC, DC, Tel Aviv, London, Paris if and when they have the means.

If you fight by rules and they don't be prepared to lose.

Your sons will be beheaded, your wives and daughters will be slaves.

37 posted on 08/26/2015 8:46:06 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eagles6

Huh, the question was who is terrorist in your scenario, not why you would want “religious symbolism ... destroyed”.


38 posted on 08/26/2015 11:42:04 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

If fighting a war to win, to survive, and not doing it by your rules while the enemy abides by no rules makes me a terrorist then so be it.


39 posted on 08/27/2015 7:17:04 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eagles6

It does make you a terrorist, but it does not help winning anything.


40 posted on 08/27/2015 7:53:44 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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