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NRA Sues Over Seattle's Adoption of 'Gun Violence Tax'
ABCNews ^

Posted on 08/24/2015 3:38:48 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Three gun rights groups, including the National Rifle Association, sued the city of Seattle on Monday over its adoption of a so-called "gun violence tax," a tax on firearms and ammunition designed to help offset the financial toll of gun violence.

The complaint was filed Monday in King County Superior Court by the NRA, the Bellevue-based Second Amendment Foundation and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, along with two gun owners and two gun shops. It called the tax legally unenforceable because Washington state prohibits local governments from adopting laws related to firearms unless those local ordinances are specifically authorized by the state.

"The ordinance serves only as a piece of propaganda, because the ordinance's mandates are legally unenforceable," the lawsuit said. "The state of Washington has the exclusive right to regulate the sale of firearms in Washington, and cities may not enact local laws or regulations related to the sale of firearms."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; lawsuit; nra; seattle; secondamendment; taxandspend
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These laws need to be struck down and an example made that this type of nonsense is blatantly Unconstitutional.
1 posted on 08/24/2015 3:38:48 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Right.

I’ll pay that right after I pay the “liberal idiot” tax.


2 posted on 08/24/2015 3:43:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If they can’t prohibit ownership, they’ll just make it unaffordable by taxing it.


3 posted on 08/24/2015 3:45:06 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Second Amendment to our Constitution says what it says:

…..”The right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed”

Words have meanings…….


4 posted on 08/24/2015 3:49:36 PM PDT by basil
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To: Red in Blue PA

Gosh, just like the taxes on smokers, eh? The liberals cry of it’s for the children shall not be stilled.


5 posted on 08/24/2015 3:56:43 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: dhs12345

Chief Justice John Marshall “The power to tax involves the power to destroy.” McCulloch vs. Maryland


6 posted on 08/24/2015 4:00:02 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: dhs12345

[[If they can’t prohibit ownership, they’ll just make it unaffordable by taxing it.]]

Just like they did with smoking-


7 posted on 08/24/2015 4:00:03 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Red in Blue PA

[[a tax on firearms and ammunition designed to help offset the financial toll of gun violence.]]

Yeah? And how about a tax on ILLEGAL IMIGRANTS to ‘help offset the MASSIVE $500 BILLION+ cost that ILLEGALS wrack up in this country every single year? I dare say ‘gun violence’ costs aren’t anywhere near what ILLEGALS are costing this country every year. How about we make it so expensive for ILLEGALS to live here that they migrate back over into mexico- since the goal of ‘gun violence taxes’ is to make it so expensive for owners that they won’t be able to afford guns (except for the wealthy) then it should also be ok to tax the crap out of ILLEGALS since we’re using costs to justify everything these days

[[”We took a simple and commonsense measure to support gun safety research and prevention methods,” he added. “It’s not in any way an attempt to regulate the sale, use or possession of firearms.”]]

Nope, it’s an attempt to regulate what class of people can own guns by making it so expensive that poor and many middle class won’t be able to afford it- Just like they did with smoking- they made it so expensive that poor and middle class people simply could not afford to keep doing it- this gun violence tax is NO different than that smoking law/tax


8 posted on 08/24/2015 4:08:58 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Red in Blue PA

Years ago the city of Oakland passed a special Business Tax that stated that any business that sold even ONE gun or ONE round of ammunition had to pay taxes at a higher rate on EVERYTHING they sold. San Francisco did the same thing. It closed Siegle’s Guns in Oakland, and the San Francisco Gun Exchange, and every other firearms business in both cities. So, obviously, it generated no income for the either city.

Where was the NRA then?


9 posted on 08/24/2015 4:13:18 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: Bob434

Wetbacks are a protected species over there on the left coast, us redneck crackers with our gun-clinging are a lot more popular target. Us, and CO2.

At some point they are just going to have to remove us from polite society. By hook or by crook.


10 posted on 08/24/2015 4:14:17 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck ( NOTE TO RNC: I will not be voting for another Bush. Ever. I don't care what his last name is.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

[[253 gunshot victims at Harborview Medical Center in 2014 totaled more than $17 million. Taxpayers paid more than $12 million of that.]]

So taxpayers are ALREADY footing the bill, and now the the city wants double taxation by recharging gun owners ? also supposedly the gun violence costs 17 million in that city- let’s average out to 10 million because many states don’t have such high numbers- we’re talking approx. $500 MILLION country wide- compared to $500+ BILLION that illegals cost this country- seems we’ve got our priorities all screwed up huh seattle? How much is the cost of ILLEGALS in your state seattle? Bet it’s WAY more than your inflated number for gun violence at 17 million- who’s paying for that? Yup- taxpayers!


11 posted on 08/24/2015 4:14:59 PM PDT by Bob434
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“...this gun violence tax is NO different than that smoking law/tax”

Except that the right to smoke is not guaranteed by it’s own Constitutional Amendment.


12 posted on 08/24/2015 4:16:53 PM PDT by beelzepug (liberalism is not...a political philosophy. It is a stage of arrested emotional development.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

[[Where was the NRA then?]]

Exactly! Funny the battles the4y pick and choose- I’ll bet lots of draconian gun laws have been passed all over this country without a peep from the NRA


13 posted on 08/24/2015 4:17:03 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Red in Blue PA

How about taxing the ones who commit violent crimes and not innocent non-violent citizens?


14 posted on 08/24/2015 4:45:25 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Any bunch of LOCAL HICKS tries this stunt in Texas, they’ll be told to immediately repeal it, or they’ll be jailed.

It’s called ‘per-emption’ and we are SERIOUS about it.


15 posted on 08/24/2015 4:57:26 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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Where was the NRA then?

I suspect that Californistan does not have the state level preclusion law that gives them leverage in Washington. If you have no tool, better to preserve your powder for a fight you can win.

16 posted on 08/24/2015 5:58:38 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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CA does have state wide firearm pre-emption laws.

“It is the intention of the Legislature to occupy the whole field of regulation of the registration or licensing of commercially manufactured firearms as encompassed by the provisions of the Penal Code, and such provisions shall be exclusive of all local regulations, relating to registration or licensing of commercially manufactured firearms, by any political subdivision as defined in Section 1721 of the Labor Code.”

17 posted on 08/24/2015 6:06:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Thanks for adding that info. Now I’m left wondering why the NRA wouldn’t engage in the Bay area incursion into firearms law.


18 posted on 08/24/2015 6:15:38 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Myrddin

Evidently the Councilcritters in L. A. didn’t get that message when they banned possession of over 10 round mags.

As for the Peoples Republic of Seattle, I am no more likely to be responsible for any “gun violence” than any of the fools who voted for this. It has been a long time since I bought a gun in Seattle, and will be a much longer time until I do so again.


19 posted on 08/24/2015 6:59:57 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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The NRA should have little trouble filing in CA state court against the LA magazine ban. It violates state law.
20 posted on 08/24/2015 7:07:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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