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Conservatives provide a reality check on Donald Trump's mass deportation plan
Examiner ^ | August 22, 2015 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 08/23/2015 12:07:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Ever since Donald Trump, the mercurial businessman, media personality, and presidential candidate, proposed his immigration policy, centering on the mass deportation of up to 11 million human beings, reaction among conservatives has been decidedly mixed. Ann Coulter, for whom illegal immigration is the alpha and the omega of public policy, exalted that Trump could perform abortions in the White House, and she would not care. But Charles Krauthammer, writing in the National Review on Thursday, and George Will, in his latest column published Saturday, provided reality checks.

Krauthammer wondered what the practical political effects would be of reenacting the Trail of Tears on a mass scale would be on the Republican Party, poised as it is on the edge of its greatest victory since 1980. His answer is not very hopeful.

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Will, on the other hand, concentrates on how big government would have to grow to implement Trump’s plan.

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............. Even Ted Cruz, no slouch where it comes to illegal immigration, realizes that this would require a constitutional amendment, a dubious prospect at best.

The upshot is that there exist practical ways of dealing with illegal immigration that most people would not find abhorrent. These include securing the borders with a wall, cracking down on people who overstay their visas, eliminating the abuse of H1-B work visas where some companies are replacing American workers with cheaper foreign workers, and dealing with the illegals that are already here in some way that is not as obnoxious as mass deportation and not as craven as amnesty. Trump’s proposal, at least according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty, creating millions of Democratic voters that would reduce the Republican Party to permenant minority status.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; US: Wisconsin
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To: major-pelham

Just saying - It must be effective, because YOU read it .


161 posted on 08/23/2015 11:40:49 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: hosepipe

Cruz never advocated deporting. He was never clear on what to do with the illegals here either, some could’ve been for amnesty eventually. That was my concern with him - he was never forthcoming about his plan. Saying Trump stole something that never existed - bizarre!

Cruz was my #1 choice until Trump took a courageous stand on the invasion, calling it what it is. Even Reagan never did that.

You can try to pretend it isn’t so, and be condescending and belittling in lieu of facing facts.

But you won’t change the fact that no candidate since Tancredo and Hunter have taken on this issue with honesty and courage and the putting Americans first.


162 posted on 08/23/2015 11:59:34 AM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: flaglady47; All
And how was that figure arrived at? I submit someone pulled that number right out of their *ss.

That’s the impression that I got when I first saw that figure.

Unfortunately, regarding how much illegals are costing the unconstitutional federal welfare system and possibly other likewise unconstitutional federal spending programs for illegals, I could find no official government numbers when I Googled the issue.

And the biggest third-party price figure on welfare for illegals that I saw is $346 billion annually.

Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America

163 posted on 08/23/2015 1:06:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: mazda77; All
Is that number applied to ASSUME in what it would take to physically round them up and move them?

At this point I regard the $165 billion figure (ballpark) that I saw for deporting illegals as anti-Trump propaganda. And when I started scratching for welfare expenses for illegals, you get all kinds of third-party figures, no official government numbers.

But I the highest third-party figure that I saw for annual welfare expenses for illegals, unconstitutional imo, is $346 billion. And that page is dated for 2008.

Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America

164 posted on 08/23/2015 1:23:55 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Yosemitest

Please name the “establishment Republicans” supporting Walker.


165 posted on 08/23/2015 1:34:26 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker -- more conservative actions as governor than even Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Hardens Hollow

Cruz never advocated deporting. He was never clear on what to do with the illegals here either


Listening to TRUMP has addled yer grits.....
Cruz is against ALL things ILLEGAL....

Been advocating DEPORTATIONS from day one..
Even back in Texas.. where LaRaza thinks he’s an Uncle Ted.. i.e. “tom”..

You really don’t know much about Ted Cruz do you....
OR are you LYING?.. NAh.. you’re freeper wouldn’t do that..

WOULD YOU?..


166 posted on 08/23/2015 1:48:54 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Erik Latranyi
then you will get an entertainer, not a leader.

The two are not mutually exclusive, one can be both.

167 posted on 08/23/2015 2:07:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan!..............

Neither is Obama but he is still president.

168 posted on 08/23/2015 2:08:39 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Erik Latranyi
No, you are hoping Walker people get banned because you really have no argument against Walker.

There is no need of an argument against Walker he is of no consequence.

169 posted on 08/23/2015 2:11:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Oklahoma
Odd you would call Walker a flipper when the RINO Trump has flip flopped more in one month than Walker in his entire political career.

Trump has been accused of "flip flopping" a lot. But all the examples I've seen have all been the result of malevolent interpretation and ignorance of what he's actually been saying.

170 posted on 08/23/2015 3:01:12 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Amazing we actually have Freepers here who actually say such stupid things in response to enforcing the law.


171 posted on 08/23/2015 3:02:08 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Amendment10

It was a rhetorical question.


172 posted on 08/23/2015 3:57:31 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: MARKUSPRIME

“Cruz or Trump. All the other are GOPe RINO’s, including open borders Walker.”

Amen!!!!


173 posted on 08/23/2015 4:20:50 PM PDT by Old Badger (Don't bother me! I'm a United States Marine Corps Veteran who is a "Once a Marine, Allows a Marine"!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
BoneHead Bonher and TurtleHead McConnell. How much more collusion do you need ?
You can NOT TRUST Walker ! ! !
174 posted on 08/23/2015 5:50:56 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

What, I thought McC was committed to his seat mate, Rand Paul?


175 posted on 08/23/2015 5:52:48 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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