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Why You Don’t Hear about Discrimination against Persons with Down Syndrome
nationalreview.com ^ | Matthew Hennessey August 18, 2015

Posted on 08/19/2015 10:38:43 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: mquinn
A blind person attempting to fly or land an aircraft would be an obvious danger to public safety, so just stop with the straw man scenarios.
41 posted on 08/19/2015 2:13:47 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: RedStateRocker

Hit it dead on the head. The lady that used to do the inspection on my projects was confined to a wheelchair but she could read the plans and read a tape measure down to the thousandth of an inch, at least it seemed that way to me.
It was actually good to work with her, she kept me on my toes.


42 posted on 08/19/2015 2:20:16 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Morgana

And the dance company would be sued out of existence.


43 posted on 08/19/2015 2:28:20 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB
The ADA is an unconstitutional atrocity.

just as a double amputee is not expected to win a marathon,

I was once a competitive distance runner. I was generally on the left side of the finishing time distribution. Events with a relatively flat course almost always had (presumably still have) a wheelchair division. Mountainous courses did not. I wonder why ...

it is stupid to prevent him or her from participating.

Stupid? Not necessarily. Safety and space limitations, for example might necessitate excluding less capable athletes. Some of the bigger races had (have?) qualifying times. I perceive that you are a Marine. Congratulations: you completed Boot Camp. Not everybody does. There are basic qualifications even to get in. Not everybody meets those qualifications. Would it be stupid to prevent your hypothetical double amputee from enlisting?

44 posted on 08/19/2015 2:30:09 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: New Perspective
A lesser product because a girl with Down Syndrome is in the class. You are an idiot.

It's a lesser product if the teacher has to spend more time with one student, or the cost is higher because they have to hire someone else to work with the one student.

45 posted on 08/19/2015 2:39:57 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks, the mighty Black Hawks)
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To: 5th MEB

It may be true that the child can participate. I don’t know and I assume neither did the person in charge of the dance class. I think patience has to work both ways.

My niece’s best friend has DS. I have been surprised at how capable she is. She does ask for a lot of help, but nothing that is a big deal. She will ask for someone to get things for her. So we do, just as you would a young child. Where the problem sometimes arises is with her emotions. Sometimes she can get a bit complicated in that area. There are also bathroom and stomach issues. I’m not an expert. That’s my only exposure.


46 posted on 08/19/2015 2:55:56 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Morgana

look, fat people, ugly people, people with Downs, people otherwise with physical or mental issues don’t DESERVE any protection....they’re fair game for whoever wants to make fun of them, exclude them, ridicule them, enslave them....


47 posted on 08/19/2015 3:11:33 PM PDT by cherry
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To: NorthMountain

It’s a dance class for small children, not Army Ranger school.

Our child has a friend a few years older with Down Syndrome. They are all in the 8-12 age range and play together in the co-op we all belong to. He’s gentlemanly, well-behaved and keeps up with the group. No one has issues or problems, including him. He does not require more work or time.

He follows directions better than some “normal” kids. I wish all children were as smart, funny, and obedient as he is.


48 posted on 08/19/2015 6:41:23 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: mountainbunny
It’s a dance class for small children,

I'm aware of that. Many folks seem unaware that "discrimination" is an unavoidable and NECESSARY part of life. I chose to illustrate that fact with some extreme examples. The principle extends to much less extreme fields of endeavor ... even dance classes for small children. It is not for you, or me, or even this girl's parents, to decide the criteria (if any) for admission into this dance class for small children. It is for the proprietors of the school to decide.

At least, it is for them to decide in a free society.

I value liberty.

You?

49 posted on 08/19/2015 7:34:11 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: cherry

look, fat people, ugly people, people with Downs, people otherwise with physical or mental issues don’t DESERVE any protection....they’re fair game for whoever wants to make fun of them, exclude them, ridicule them, enslave them....


50 posted on 08/20/2015 9:23:52 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: NorthMountain

We are talking about a LITTLE GIRLS DANCE CLASS here; not some body in a wheelchair trying to run a rough mountain marathon course. I doubt even the new tracked chairs could safely or competently run a mountain course.
We are also NOT talking about a little girl jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft to perform a vertical envelopment operation, it’s a little girls dance class. I say let her try and have some fun; if she can’t keep up, so be it.
She should not be denied the opportunity to try.


51 posted on 08/20/2015 2:02:58 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: NorthMountain

Show me anywhere in any article that it says that the child with Down Syndrome needs anything extra or different from others in the class.

Many with Down need nothing different unless it is an academic subject.

There is no reason to discriminate against someone based solely pm their looks.


52 posted on 08/20/2015 6:30:46 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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