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Bush Hits Trump on Immigration
US News and World Report ^ | 8/18/15 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 08/18/2015 5:30:36 AM PDT by jimbo123

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To: tennmountainman
"All Bush says it that it is unrealistic."

One can argue about the costs & problems with any attempted solution to the present dynamics, which are completely undermining American cultures in community after community. But the one thing that is totally unrealistic is the insane notion that you can preserve the American values & culture of the Founders, without a drastic policy that addresses the realities on the ground.

The Left has used a massive "bait & switch" strategy, going back at least to the 1950s; but with much earlier roots, to undermine the continuity of American culture & identity. The attack goes like this. They first identify actual mean spirited--even hate driven--attacks on people, based on their race, ethnicity, faith or class. Then they label the motive behind those attacks as "racism," "bigotry," "nativism," or whatever, and gain a certain consensus on that labeling. That is the bait; and most of us can agree up to that point, that what they have labelled, is indeed something bad; something that should be avoided, and condemned.

Then comes the subtle switch. At first by slow degrees, and then in a great propaganda rush; the condemned behavior ceases to be limited to actual misdeeds against victims, and is expanded to include any racial, ethnic or religious identification--indeed any sense of community with people with whom you have shared a common history, kinship, values & identity. In short, expanded to include the social "glue," that provides for the cohesion and continuity of a people.

Because so much of our Academia & the puppets in the media who parrot what the Leftist crackpots in Academia installed in their minds, are themselves totally committed to the lunacy that people are interchangeable; that the apparent differences are merely products of a social environment that can be manipulated & changed by social engineering; much of the public never questions what has happened to common sense. There is almost no sense of proportion or logical relationships in the public discourse. And unless we find a way to break out of the resulting Pavlovian like conditioning, boys and girls, there is not going to be a recognizable America in the very near future.

Jeb Bush may be a very nice man, personally. He is certainly to be commended for loving his wife. His niceness--his commendable sense of his own family--are not the issues. For whatever reason; whether from what he was conditioned to believe in College, or what he has come to believe with the sort of advisers he has had since; or whether from something innate in his character, he is not the man to be taken seriously on this issue.

I have tried to put this in as nice a way as possible. But we are faced with the question of whether America survives as a people. Trump gets it. Bush does not.

41 posted on 08/18/2015 7:07:01 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: jimbo123

I have noticed the talking points already handed out about Trump’s immigration plan: unrealistic, impossible, disaster, disruptive, racist, too expensive, it can’t be done, cause economic collapse, etc. Accept the crime and slaughter, and as George Will says, get over it.


42 posted on 08/18/2015 7:38:53 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Lakeshark

Bush can put out $50 million in ads and it still won’t buy him the votes he needs.


43 posted on 08/18/2015 7:59:11 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: refermech

Agreed about the anchor babies. They are citizens and cannot legally be deported. However, their parents are not citizens and can be deported. If you deport the parents, how many anchor babies would stay behind? Would you not take your young children with you if you were deported?

And as I mentioned, I liken the deportation of illegals to the arrest and incarceration of other criminals. If there are too many robbers, do we stop arresting and incarcerating the ones we do catch? Of course not. We may never deport all the illegals, but we can certainly deport the ones we find instead of allowing sanctuary cities where they can run to and be safe from deportation.


44 posted on 08/18/2015 10:06:10 AM PDT by stremba
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To: jimbo123
Why doesn't Jeb Bush run for president of Mexico? He speaks Spanish and has a Latina wife. Plus, he mixes well with the oligarchs that run the place, like Carlos Slim.
45 posted on 08/18/2015 10:47:22 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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To: Paine in the Neck

You are, obviously, in the same side of the financial industry as my wife...”compliance”.

My post was directed toward the reality of regulation and...how the FED can ^specifically^ tell banks and other financial institutions how to “do business”.

When congress tells banks to “jump”, they just get in the air and wait for further instructions! Such are the concerns of today’s capitalism.


46 posted on 08/18/2015 10:50:29 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (BREAKING: Boy Scouts of America Changes Corporate Identity to "Scouting for Boys in America")
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To: PoloSec

Little Jebbie: Elect me please I believe what Hillary does on immigration!!! Doesn’t that count for anything!!!

Bush, Kasich and the Rube are going to look like idiots trolling for the Chamber of Crony Fascism’s demand for open borders.


47 posted on 08/18/2015 11:47:59 AM PDT by sarge83
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