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Ohio Supreme Court board orders all judges to perform gay ‘weddings’
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/14/15 | Father Mark Hodges

Posted on 08/14/2015 9:21:11 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Homofascism...just a matter of time before they come for our children.”

Two words: boy scouts.


61 posted on 08/14/2015 3:34:14 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: wagglebee
"I've been looking back through your posting history mlo and it appears that you have a pattern of tacitly supporting the homosexual agenda with statements like this one."

Then I'd say you have a problem with interpretation. What I've been posting about are the legal issues, like this one. One, I haven't been posting about what I prefer to be but about what the law is. Two, I've been correct.

62 posted on 08/14/2015 4:43:52 PM PDT by mlo
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To: wagglebee
"No, it applies to the PEOPLE and a judge is among them."

Nope. That's not how it works. The government is made up of people, and certainly as individuals they have all the same rights the rest of us have, that don't work for the government. But the government does not have rights. And when someone is performing functions of their government job they are acting as the government. A judge, in the act of being a judge, has no religious freedom. He has it as an individual, when he's not acting in an official capacity.

63 posted on 08/14/2015 4:47:17 PM PDT by mlo
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To: wagglebee
"Do YOU think that same-sex "marriage" should be legal? YES or NO."

Not really relevant to the law, but OK. I do not agree with judicial decisions that have mandated gay marriage against the will of the people. From a legal and political point of view I believe the question is entirely up to the people to decide, either directly or through their legislators.

"Does Ohio have a law that REQUIRES judges to perform wedding ceremonies? YES or NO"

I have no idea. But judges do perform them, clearly, or we wouldn't have this article to post about.

64 posted on 08/14/2015 4:50:53 PM PDT by mlo
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To: P-Marlowe
"The Ohio statute specifically limits the issuance of a marriage licenses to members of the opposite sex."

You do realize that there's been a recent Supreme Court decision on this issue, right?

65 posted on 08/14/2015 4:53:59 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo; xzins; wagglebee; Jim Robinson
You do realize that there's been a recent Supreme Court decision on this issue, right?

You do realize I'm an attorney, don't you. The Supreme Court decision only stated that statutes which prohibit marriage between two perverts of the same sex are unconstitutional.

So the statutes which prohibit said marriages are technically invalid. But marriage licenses are issued in accordance with those statutes. If the statute is considered invalid, then the state has no authority to issue any license at all.

So, until Ohio passes a new law which sets forth the conditions under which a marriage license can be issued, then the State has no authority to issue any marriage licenses at all.

The Supreme Court's decision is not constitutional. They did not have the authority or the jurisdiction to rule on the case.

The Supreme Court is no longer acting under the Constitution. It is the duty of all Citizens to resist tyranny. What the Supreme Court did was judicial tyranny.

I support everyone who thumbs their nose at that decision.

Let them enforce it, by force. In the interim, Governors and Citizens have the duty to ignore it.

66 posted on 08/14/2015 5:56:58 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: mlo

You’re defending the liberal court opinion against the people? Perhaps you’re on the wrong website?


67 posted on 08/14/2015 6:01:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: wagglebee
would negatively influence "the public's perception of the judiciary."

We perceive it pretty negatively already.

This doesn't help.

68 posted on 08/14/2015 6:06:00 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: mlo; wagglebee; xzins
Then I'd say you have a problem with interpretation. What I've been posting about are the legal issues, like this one. One, I haven't been posting about what I prefer to be but about what the law is. Two, I've been correct.

LOL.

Three, you are an idiot.

What law school did you flunk out of?

69 posted on 08/14/2015 6:11:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: P-Marlowe
"Three, you are an idiot."

Four, you just lost the argument.

70 posted on 08/15/2015 12:07:38 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Jim Robinson
"You’re defending the liberal court opinion against the people? Perhaps you’re on the wrong website?"

No I'm not. I'm explaining that it's not a liberal opinion, it's a legal one. Courts aren't supposed to make decisions to get a particular political outcome, they are supposed to apply the rules. Sometimes the rules properly applied will favor one political side and sometimes another. This particular rule is not controversial, it's just that in this particular case it leads to an outcome we don't like. Judges have to perform gay weddings. It's easy to think of other cases where the same rule would produce outcomes we do like. The rule itself, the government does not have rights, the people do, is a good rule. It is based on the Constitution. And since Free Republic respects the Constitution I think this is good place to explain this.

71 posted on 08/15/2015 12:15:21 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

Advise you stop digging.


72 posted on 08/15/2015 12:38:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: mlo

Unless this is the hill you choose your FR account to die on.


73 posted on 08/15/2015 12:39:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: mlo; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; xzins; EternalVigilance; trisham; onyx
No I'm not. I'm explaining that it's not a liberal opinion, it's a legal one.

Really? Where exactly is SCOTUS empowered to create a right that has NEVER existed?

Courts aren't supposed to make decisions to get a particular political outcome, they are supposed to apply the rules.

What rules are they following in creating special privileges for sodomites?

This particular rule is not controversial, it's just that in this particular case it leads to an outcome we don't like.

The hell it isn't.

Judges have to perform gay weddings. It's easy to think of other cases where the same rule would produce outcomes we do like.

I was right before, you are tacitly advancing the homosexual agenda.

The rule itself, the government does not have rights, the people do, is a good rule.

So, judges don't have rights?

74 posted on 08/15/2015 1:40:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; mlo; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; xzins; EternalVigilance; onyx
I was right before, you are tacitly advancing the homosexual agenda.

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I've read pages and pages of mlo's posting history, which is quite interesting. He seems to have a very good grasp of the law, although I must confess that I am in no way educated in the subject.

It all hangs on that one word: tacitly.

tacit

adjective

understood or implied without being stated : your silence may be taken to mean tacit agreement.

DERIVATIVES

tacitly

adverb

ORIGIN early 17th cent. (in the sense [wordless, noiseless] ): from Latin tacitus, past participle of tacere ‘be silent.’

75 posted on 08/15/2015 1:59:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
It all hangs on that one word: tacitly.

And this has long been used by libertarians and many in the GOP to advance the left's agenda.

76 posted on 08/15/2015 2:17:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

It’s a clever ploy, no doubt about it.


77 posted on 08/15/2015 2:26:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
A big part of it is the "let the states decide" mantra.

What if a state decides to legalize slavery? Is that okay?

One of the few things scarier than a dictatorship is the form of direct democracy that libertarians tend to favor. The Founding Fathers established a representative republic for a reason.

78 posted on 08/15/2015 2:44:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
A big part of it is the "let the states decide" mantra. What if a state decides to legalize slavery? Is that okay?

One of the few things scarier than a dictatorship is the form of direct democracy that libertarians tend to favor. The Founding Fathers established a representative republic for a reason.

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The Founding Fathers were brilliant men, but it seems that there may have been some divine influence as well.

79 posted on 08/15/2015 2:52:12 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee; mlo; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; xzins; EternalVigilance; trisham

Dearest wagglebee,

When you first pinged me the other day, I also took a look at mlo’s posting history and quickly surmised that mlo has a Juris Doctor (JD) degree and was “tacitly” arguing from a strictly lawyerly view.

Of course, I am often dead-bang wrong!!


80 posted on 08/15/2015 2:59:11 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE Support FR - GO MONTHLY - Join CLUB 300 - God bless FR's Donors!)
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