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kapiolani.org) ^ | RICHARD R. SILVERLIEB Attorney at Law

Posted on 08/13/2015 9:59:41 PM PDT by MarvinStinson

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To: Fantasywriter

I have no interest in spinning the facts. McCain is a member of the Permanent Political Class and Sarah Palin was his running mate, period.


241 posted on 08/21/2015 8:11:33 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

You are calling Palin a hypocrite. It’s not a question; it’s a fact. And spare me the ritualistic song and dance about your ‘position’ being that Palin was McCain’s running mate. [How can even you not see what a dumb statement that is?] In context, it is inescapable and self-evident: you have indicted Palin as a hypocrite.


242 posted on 08/22/2015 6:54:41 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The word I used for Governor Palin was “pragmatic.” {”dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.”}

I have tremendous respect for pragmatic politicians. They know how to get things accomplished as opposed to the ideologues who are all talk.


243 posted on 08/22/2015 11:31:01 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

No. By repeatedly stressing that she ran with PPC McCain WHILE rejecting a factually accurate explanation for it, you are calling Palin a hypocrite.

Still waiting for you to apologize for the petty swipes you took at Trump. Perhaps you didn’t know at the time that Palin would be such an enthusiastic supporter. But now you do, and since you (haha) agree with ALL her positions, you no doubt wish to publicly change your tune and agree with Palin on this one.


244 posted on 08/22/2015 12:19:22 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The only person using the term “hypocrite” in reference to Governor Palin is Fantasywriter.
My term was and is “pragmatic” for her decision to be Senator McCain’s running mate.
I do not wish to change my choice of descriptor nor my tune.

Donald Trump said this week that the Supreme Court’s decision on homosexual marriage was the last word, there will be no constitutional amendment to alter that and folks should just get over it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422856/trump-kasich-gay-marriage

I wish he had said that when he is president, he will appoint Justices to the Supreme Court who will overturn that ruling.
When Maureen Dowd asked him if he still believed Obama was ineligible, he said, “no comment.”
Unlike Governor Palin, I do not agree with Donald Trump on every issue.
If he is the eventual nominee, I would vote for him but he’s not my first choice.
I don’t automatically trust Republicans who have contributed money to Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer and Planned Parenthod and have had George Soros as a business partner.
But we’ve git more than a year to go.


245 posted on 08/22/2015 1:06:49 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

How stupid can one post be. YOU are the one who’s plastered the thread with the left’s favorite Palin-is-a-hypocrite charge/talking point. Yes, it is ignorant and misguided, but as such it suits you perfectly. You are no fan of Palin—indeed, you are a smearer of Palin. If you were a fan, YOU would know the fallacy of the Left’s smear, and you would not post their Palin-is-a-hypocrite slop over and over and over.

Also, your claim to agree with Palin on all the issues is just more dishonesty. Palin says Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Permanent Political Class. You, being enamoured of the PPC, have never come close to such a view. There is only one point of agreement between you and Palin, as your long posting history demonstrates. On all other points you are at loggerheads.


246 posted on 08/22/2015 1:29:03 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The only person using the term “hypocrite “ to describe Governor Palin’s decision to run with John McCain is Fantasywriter.

I am not responsible for your poor choice of terms.

Makng a pragmatic political decision is a compliment not an insult.


247 posted on 08/22/2015 1:48:41 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Your combination of leftist trollery and limited mental acuity makes it next to impossible to communicate with you.
However, so you will have no excuse, here it goes.

Suppose there is a person with whom you CLAIM to be friends. The person has enemies who routinely smear her.

What do you, as a ‘friend’ do? Do you refute the smears...or repeat them as if they were true?

Prior to being McCain’s running mate Palin had not coined the term Permanent Political Class. Far from being on an anti-PPC crusade, she was busy governing her state. She was doing such a good job that she had the highest approval of any governor in the country.

It was only AFTER her experiences in the ‘08 campaign that she turned her sites on the PPC. Thus the Left’s favorite smear of her is completely invalid. I.e. her being McCain’s running mate does NOTHING to undercut her anti-PPC battle.

If you were a real Palin fan/friend you would already know this. Instead you simply regurgitate the leftist Palin smears over and over and over. You are no fan of Palin, and have never been. You are a Palin enemy, pure and simple.

Btw, I am not the one accusing Palin of hypocrisy. The Left does that, by claiming her willingness to run with McCain destroys her anti-PPC credibility.

And YOU seize the left’s favorite anti-Palin talking point, and post it again and again and again.


248 posted on 08/22/2015 2:25:18 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

What part of the word “pragmatist” don’t you understand?

Here one more time is exactly what I said:
“I think our dear FRiend Fantasywriter may have forgotten that there is no one in the Republican Party who is more representative of the Permanent Political Class than 32 years in Washington D.C., John Sidney McCain and Governor Palin, being the pragmatist that she is, agreed to be his running mate.”

The point, which obviously needs to be explained to Fantasywriter, is that Sarah Palin is capable of working both inside and outside the system to bring down the permanent political class because she is a pragmatic political person.


249 posted on 08/22/2015 3:49:36 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Haha. Now you’re getting bizarrely desperate. So Palin became McCain’s running mate in order to bring him down?

I’ve never asked anyone this question before...but are you off your meds?


250 posted on 08/22/2015 4:09:46 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

What part of working both inside and outside the system don’t you understand?
No, Sarah Palin did not choose to become John McCain’s running mate “to bring him down.”
Anyone with the slightest bit of political astuteness knows that the Vice Presidential position can be a stepping stone to becoming President. 14 Vice Presidents have become President.


251 posted on 08/22/2015 4:34:39 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

‘Governor Palin, being the pragmatist that she is, agreed to be his running mate.”
The point ... is that Sarah Palin is capable of working both inside and outside the system to bring down the permanent political class because she is a pragmatic political person.’

So she agreed to be McCain’s running mate in order to bring down the Permanent Political Class.

The humor here is too rich. All of a sudden your posts went from being merely somewhat incoherent to being actual comedy routines. Who am I to object? We all enjoy a good laugh now and then.


252 posted on 08/22/2015 4:48:41 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Btw, Palin’s willingness to run with McCain had nothing, pro or con, to do with the Permanent Political Class. If you were 1, a conservative, and 2, a Palin fan, you would know this.


253 posted on 08/22/2015 4:56:28 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Enough. Quit while you’re behind.


254 posted on 08/22/2015 5:39:49 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Not a bad couple of days’ work for yourself, NG. You admitted you’re on the site to demoralize conservatives, you introduced—and serially repeated—the Left’s number one talking point used to discredit Palin’s war on the Permanent Political Class, and you demonstrated that you don’t have a clue as to why Palin joined McCain’s ticket. You also provided some truly first rate humor.

Not a bad few days’ work at all.


255 posted on 08/22/2015 8:12:11 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m moving on now. Thanks for another stimulating and enjoyable debate.


256 posted on 08/23/2015 10:10:51 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Haha. I can imagine how much you’d love to move on. But things will never be the same. You finally admitted what anyone who’s spent five minutes studying your slimeball MO already knew: that you are on the site to demoralize conservatives.

That seminal admission is going to haunt you.


257 posted on 08/23/2015 11:41:28 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I apologize for discouraging you. I suggest that you watch-listen to-or read a Donald Trump speech, a Ted Cruz speech and a Ben Carson speech and you’ll be enthused again, good as new!


258 posted on 08/24/2015 2:26:14 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

This post builds on your prior dumb and dumber posts.

We’ll call this one,’dumbest.’


259 posted on 08/24/2015 2:48:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensicork using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Whatever helps you to feel less discouraged, I’m happy to be able to provide.


260 posted on 08/24/2015 4:57:46 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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