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Islam Needs Luther, Calvin
MEMRI ^ | 13/7/15 | Turki AlHamad

Posted on 08/11/2015 12:24:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

In a July 13 interview with the Dubai-based Saudi TV network Al-Arabiya TV, Saudi author Turki Al-Hamad said that "most of our sheikhs and preachers" are incapable of producing a moderate discourse because they draw upon the same ideological sources as ISIS. He further stated that Islam needs its own Luther and Calvin to reform it.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: daesh; isis; islam; reformation
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Christian reformation had a pope to rebel against, who had an army to field soldiers against. Islam is highly decentralized, and the army includes zealots and assassins who do not observe the rules of war, even as outlined in the Koran. I wouldn't bet on a Calvin or Luther appearing any time soon.
1 posted on 08/11/2015 12:24:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Or Oppenheimer and Teller.


2 posted on 08/11/2015 12:28:02 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Eleutheria5

What islam really needs is the fate that the thugs of India met.


3 posted on 08/11/2015 12:35:11 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Eleutheria5

The only people who think that are people who don’t know the bloody attacks unleashed by Lutherans on the Catholics. Calvin was infinitely worse, in fact, and attacked other Protestants, publically putting them to death in his Geneva dictatorship.


4 posted on 08/11/2015 12:39:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: Eleutheria5

I always thought women would lead the reformation.


5 posted on 08/11/2015 12:41:27 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Eleutheria5

Islam needs Jesus.


6 posted on 08/11/2015 12:44:28 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Fools are my theme, let satire be my song."- Lord Byron)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m thinking General LeMay and a fleet of B-2’s and B-1’s.

If we could get to their nerve centers.


7 posted on 08/11/2015 1:09:59 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: livius

Ask the Cathars in the Languedoc how terrible the Protestants were. Oh, that’s right, that isn’t who killed them.


8 posted on 08/11/2015 2:05:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Eleutheria5

At least Calvin’s brand of replacement theology was not used by Hitler like Luther’s. I think Islam already believes they have replaced Israel, by Ishmael’s first born rights.


9 posted on 08/11/2015 2:14:10 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Eleutheria5

No. Islam does not need a Calvin or Luther. Islam, all moslems, need Jesus Christ. Like the rest of humanity, they need to repent of their sins, accept the work and forgiveness of Christ, and be filled with the Holy Spirit.


10 posted on 08/11/2015 2:48:00 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Eleutheria5

This is great. I mentioned that Islam is undergoing a bloody reformation very similar to the Protestant reformation. I thought about it awhile ago. It’s nice to see others seeing the same thing.

I don’t know your background but do you think there is a similarity between our current government and the point in roman history when they changed from a republic to an empire? I think FDR was our Casear and from then on it’s been a slide into the utopian bureaucratic fake representative government.


11 posted on 08/11/2015 3:00:29 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Yes! Thank you!

The BASE of Islam is corrupt and degraded, I don’t care what you pile on top of it.


12 posted on 08/11/2015 3:40:44 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Eleutheria5

Islam doesn’t need a Luther.

They already despise Jews.


13 posted on 08/11/2015 3:54:33 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Eleutheria5

You can’t reform Islam since everything about it is based on the ends-justifies-the-means m.o. Jihad is the core tenant and if you remove it you don’t have Islam anymore.


14 posted on 08/11/2015 5:11:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: joshua c

“I always thought women would lead the reformation.”

Not when you have Muzzie women teaching their children jihad from the time they can walk.


15 posted on 08/11/2015 5:12:45 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jemian

“Islam, all moslems, need Jesus Christ.”

Oh, great. How are you going to convince 1.2 billion anti-Semites to bow down to the teachings of a Jewish rabbi?

It would take a miracle beyond all miracles to see that become reality.


16 posted on 08/11/2015 5:15:01 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: fella

It might be the only possible solution. Mass murder and coercion are too deeply embedded in Islamic texts. To repudiate the former, you must deny the divinity of the latter, and that’s not happening.


17 posted on 08/11/2015 5:20:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: livius

If I had lived in the time of Calvin and Luther, I would have eaten lots of popcorn.


18 posted on 08/11/2015 5:21:32 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The ends really blow, too.


19 posted on 08/11/2015 5:22:32 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Dick Vomer

I left the country before Caligula could show up. Did I just miss him?


20 posted on 08/11/2015 5:24:55 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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