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Huckabee's 'Oven' Remark Taken Out of Context
Townhall.com ^ | July 31, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 07/31/2015 7:12:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

It's been a hard time for politicians not named "Trump" to get any attention, but Mike Huckabee managed it. He did it by comparing Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler.

At least that's what I gathered from headlines like this one from Gawker:

"Mike Huckabee Compares Obama to Hitler"

I don't put huge amounts of stock in Gawker headlines (or really any headlines on the Internet), but then I saw that CNN's Wolf Blitzer said Huckabee had "essentially likened [Barack Obama] to Adolf Hitler." National Journal's Ron Fournier went on a tear on Twitter, insisting that Huckabee apologize for comparing Obama to Hitler. And of course, Hillary Clinton and Obama himself denounced Huckabee for making a Hitler comparison. Clinton even said she was "really offended personally," as if her feelings are what really matters.

Here is what Huckabee said in full during an interview with Breitbart News:

"This president's foreign policy is the most feckless in American history. It is so naive that he would trust the Iranians. By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven. This is the most idiotic thing, this Iran deal. It should be rejected by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and by the American people. I read the whole deal. We gave away the whole store. It's got to be stopped."

Now, I've never been a big fan of Huckabee's style of politics -- or policy. But a remotely fair reading of the statement strongly suggests that Huckabee was comparing Obama to Neville Chamberlain or some other member of the "Hitler is a man we can do business with" school. That's the point of calling Obama "naive" for trusting the Iranians -- the Hitler in Huckabee's analogy.

We can parse more deeply if we must. Hitler didn't march Jews to the doors of the ovens, but into them. The Iranians are the ones with sinister intentions in Huckabee's description, not Obama, who, again, is described as naive and feckless, not sinister and evil. Huckabee probably shouldn't have used the word "march" because it muddies his point. "Delivered to" or "abandoned at" would have worked better.

I think, as a general rule, one should pretty much always avoid talking about Jews and ovens unless discussing the actual Holocaust. And one could argue that Huckabee, who insists he never compared Obama to Hitler, was cynically hoping to be misconstrued in order to get some media attention -- which he got.

But on the merits, Huckabee isn't saying anything that lots of serious people haven't said, albeit more eloquently. In countless speeches, Bibi Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have stressed that the legacy of the Holocaust is such that Israel cannot take a chance on Iran having a nuclear weapon.

In his address to Congress in March, Netanyahu movingly singled out Holocaust survivor and Nobel Prize winner Elie Wiesel from the audience. "Elie, your life and work inspires to give meaning to the words, 'never again,'" Netanyahu said to bipartisan applause. "And I wish I could promise you, Elie, that the lessons of history have been learned. I can only urge the leaders of the world not to repeat the mistakes of the past."

What mistakes? Precisely the mistakes Huckabee says Obama is making. It's the same argument.

And it's not a dumb argument. At least it's not a dumb argument if you listen to the Iranians. As my National Review colleague David French recently catalogued, Iranian civil, military and religious leaders have for years vowed to "wipe Israel off the map," deliver a new Holocaust (while denying the first one happened), etc.

Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Iran's pet terrorist group, Hezbollah, has said, "If all the Jews gathered in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide. ... It is an open war until the elimination of Israel and until the death of the last Jew on earth." Until that time, Hezbollah has had to make do with killing Jews where they find them.

Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry don't take the Iranians at their word when they say they want to kill Jews, no matter how clearly and consistently they say it. But they trust the Iranians to stick to their word on this nuclear agreement (which would be a bad agreement even if Iran could be trusted).

George W. Bush was routinely compared to Hitler with a fraction of the outcry Huckabee has received. Perhaps that's because Huckabee's real sin has nothing to do with Hitler analogies and everything to do with Iranian reality.


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1 posted on 07/31/2015 7:12:23 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

When the light of truth is revealed to those living in the lies of darkness they scream with torment. The minions of Obama are tormented souls.


2 posted on 07/31/2015 7:17:47 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Kaslin

You know? This is the second article I’ve seen about defending or “laying off” Huckabee remarks for his “oven” remark.

Just spit balling here but wouldn’t collective UPDATED wisdom in the wake of Trump’s unapologetic stance over what he’s said with respect to illegals, etc. and his rise in the polls be some kind of a clue to the dweebs out there in this campaign?

Why in the heck do also-rans of the establishment whatever NEED somebody to protect, explain or defend them?

It would seem to me “who cares?” Huckabee is not, ever was on my radar as someone who I’d vote for. But, still, his supporters seem awfully behind current non-Democrat voter sentiment to me.


3 posted on 07/31/2015 7:19:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin
The problem for the Huckster is not the remark itself, but the fact that only remarks along those lines will make it possible to break through the Hitlery/Trump media wall.

'Course that pretty much goes for all the Republican candidates. They better learn to take advantage of those situations.

My advice: Don't address the controversy directly. Use the attention to get your message across. Prolong the effort to drag some sort of apology or retraction out of you. In fact, don't apologize at all. They'll get bored with the whole thing eventually anyway when some other Republican makes some sort of controversial statement or Hitlery farts some inanity they can swoon over.

4 posted on 07/31/2015 7:20:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

So—Is the Huckster’s campaign trying to walk-back the oven comment via Goldberg, or is Jonah doing this on his own?


5 posted on 07/31/2015 7:22:19 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m not a Huckleberry supporter either, but there’s nothing wrong with his comment.

What do they think happens to people when they suffer a nuclear attack?

Why do you suppose they use the term “nuclear holocaust”?


6 posted on 07/31/2015 7:23:14 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: Arm_Bears

No, Mike Huckabee is standing by his comment and rightly so


7 posted on 07/31/2015 7:25:52 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I agree completely there is absolutely nothing wrong with his comment. It would have been wrong if he had taken the comment back and would have shown him as a flip-flopper


8 posted on 07/31/2015 7:30:02 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

“...Taken Out of Context...”

The second most used comment used in defense of spineless, lap-dog politicians in an effort to escape the wrath of the Left. It’s generally uttered just after the number one statement...”I apologize.”


9 posted on 07/31/2015 7:35:30 AM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

The comment was totally taken out of contest by the left-wing site The Gawker and that is factual


10 posted on 07/31/2015 7:48:58 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Zer0 will be pleased when he and his minions wipe Israel off the map.


11 posted on 07/31/2015 7:57:51 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Paladin2

You said it


12 posted on 07/31/2015 7:58:40 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m not a Huckleberry supporter either, but there’s nothing wrong with his comment.


Agree. The ovens were real. So is the threat from Iran.


13 posted on 07/31/2015 8:00:07 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Kaslin
Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry don't take the Iranians at their word when they say they want to kill Jews,

Oh, but they do. Therein lies the truth and foundation for this "deal".

14 posted on 07/31/2015 8:07:24 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

As a Jew I take no offense from his remarks and understand perfectly what he is saying, truth be told!


15 posted on 07/31/2015 8:22:35 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Kaslin

Huckaby didn’t compare Obama to Adolf, but rather Iran to Adolf.
Iran makes threats to kill the Jews, and last time we ignored threats like that, Adolf rose to power.

Obama is Neville Chamberlain, the appeaser.


16 posted on 07/31/2015 8:37:33 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Given its minuscule size, it would only take about three nukes to render Israel “juden frei.”
17 posted on 07/31/2015 8:42:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Kaslin

Huckabee went way up in my book. Hopefully he won’t go wobbly.


18 posted on 07/31/2015 8:43:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

You’re right. And, so is Huckabee’s “oven” comment.


19 posted on 07/31/2015 8:57:06 AM PDT by moovova
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