Here's what the US would look like if all the Earth's ice melted

businessinsider.com ^ | 7/25/2015 | unknown

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Meanwhile...

Earth heading for 'mini ice age' in just 15 years, scientists say
UPI ^ | Updated July 11, 2015 | Doug G. Ware

Solar scientists predict that the Earth will enter a "mini ice age" around 2030 due to decreased activity by the sun, which will bring with it frigid cold winters. The last time the Earth experienced a similar situation occurred between 1645 and 1715.

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From 1975...

The "Grim Realities" of Global COOLING

"The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth's climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic."

The Cooling World
Newsweek, April 28, 1975

There are ominous signs that the Earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production– with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self- sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.

The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth's climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic.

"A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale," warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, "because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century."

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.

To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth's average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the "little ice age" conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. "Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data," concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. "Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."

Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies.

"The world's food-producing system," warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA's Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, "is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago." Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.

The Cooling World:
http://denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm

Original Newsweek article with scary maps and graphs:
http://denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf

[Randy Larsen]

I thought it sounded like Shep Smith from fox.

[outofsalt]

That's too horrible to contemplate ;)
Make mine a double.

[Dartman]

That video is such a rip. I went and got a fresh beer to watch it with, and what did I get? Stupid graphics about fuzzy green stuff disappearing. I wanted to see cities getting swallowed up, and maybe see if the school bus drivers in New Orleans got their butts in gear this time.

[jy8z]

If sea levels rose by 200 feet, I would have oceanfront property! My land value would at least triple.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

I guess my house in northern Virginia will become waterfront property. Pretty cool. Swimming right off your front steps/porch.

However, those electrical power towers might create some problems, but since flooded oceans will wipe out off-shore windmills, we won’t have any power. Therefore the “towers of power” will be inoperative.

Now where’s my rubber ducky?

[VanDeKoik]

Michigan looks to be fine, so I ain’t even gonna give a fudge.

[zipper]

Assuming the rise of 200 feet doesn’t cause the oceanic crust to sink or compress.

Yes, the conjecture doesn't account for any natural feedback mechanisms, like the one you mention. Way beyond our ability to anticipate, or probably even comprehend.

I wonder how much closer to the sun the earth's orbit would have to be to cause that much melting? The ice (and oceans) are a pretty big heat sink. I think it takes one calorie (not a dietary calorie, a scientific calorie) to raise one cubic centimeter of water by one degree Celsius.

We're talking a lot of calories.

[SoCal Pubbie]

The coastline used to extend back to about Riverside in So Cal about the same period.

[TomGuy]

and maybe see if the school bus drivers in New Orleans got their butts in gear this time

Don't encourage that!

My town of about 10K (at the time) took in 3 or 4 Katrina families. Shortly thereafter, the town noticed an increase in crime and the first murder in decades.

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Jane Fonda sounds climate change alarm in Toronto
The Star ^ | July 4, 2015 | Christopher Reynolds

"The climate change problem is the issue of our civilization. It will affect everything about our lives if we don’t do something about it," she [Jane Fonda] says.
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Well, whatta you know, these 3 guys agree(ed) with Jane...

“The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet.”

“I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don’t think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, ‘tomorrow could be too late, let’s do now what we need to do’.”

“I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet.”

—Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005

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Bin Laden blasts US for climate change

CAIRO – Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden has called for the world to boycott American goods and the U.S. dollar, blaming the United States and other industrialized countries for global warming, according to a new audiotape released Friday.

In the tape, broadcast in part on Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden warned of the dangers of climate change and says that the way to stop it is to bring “the wheels of the American economy” to a halt.

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“Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader, has broken a 20-year silence in an interview from his prison cell to warn the world of an impending apocalypse due to global warming.

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“Everyone’s God and if we don’t wake up to that there’s going to be no weather because our polar caps are melting because we’re doing bad things to the atmosphere,” he said.

“The automobiles and fossil fuels are destroying the atmosphere and we won’t have air to breathe.

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>>I thought it sounded like Shep Smith from fox.

Exactly what I thought, except it wasn’t.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3317806/posts?page=34#34

[biff]

Sounds like some real nice real estate opportunities will open up with the new beach front properties.

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I guess my house in northern Virginia will become waterfront property. Pretty cool. Swimming right off your front steps/porch.

It's already happening here in New York, and I have the pics to prove it!

[Marie]

The IPCC’s worst case scenario is 30cm over the next 100 years.

As sea levels rose 30 cm in the last 100 years, and we didn’t notice, I think we’ll get over it.

[zipper]

I wanted to see cities getting swallowed up, and maybe see if the school bus drivers in New Orleans got their butts in gear this time.

Yes, I remember "Nagin's Navy". I think he's in prison now. But not for this.

[zipper]

The IPCC’s worst case scenario is 30cm over the next 100 years.

As sea levels rose 30 cm in the last 100 years, and we didn’t notice, I think we’ll get over it.

Didn't Algore say they'd rise 20 feet by 2010? Rumor has it, he may be drafted to run in Hillary's stead. His masseuse called him a "crazed sex poodle".

[SuziQ]

Wasn’t that already supposed to have happened? Didn’t Ted Danson, back in the early 90s, say that the US Coastline would be underwater, because the oceans were going to rise 10’ because of Global Warming? Seems nature decided not to cooperate with the Chicken Littles of the left.

[Sergio]

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