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Obama: New citizens can skip pledge to take up arms and defend the U.S.
The Washington Examiner ^ | 7/21/15 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 07/22/2015 1:25:43 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services on Tuesday said it will no longer require incoming U.S. citizens to pledge that they will "bear arms on behalf of the United States" or "perform noncombatant service" in the Armed Forces as part of the naturalization process.

Those lines are in the Oath of Allegiance that people recite as they become U.S. citizens. But USCIS said people "may" be able to exclude those phrases for reasons related to religion or if they have a conscientious objection.

USCIS said people with certain religious training or with a "deeply held moral or ethical code" may not have to say the phrases as they are naturalized.

The agency said people don't have to belong to a specific church or religion to use this exemption, and may attest to U.S. officials administering the oath that they have these beliefs.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; betrayal; braking; breaking
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

This should be a disqualifier if ever there was one. Why would any sane country allow such people to live here let alone be granted citizenship? This country really has gone insane.


21 posted on 07/22/2015 1:36:37 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

“A certain religious training”

Yeah, they can just blow themselves up instead.


22 posted on 07/22/2015 1:36:52 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: rdl6989

Yes——a nightmare that seems unending.

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23 posted on 07/22/2015 1:37:27 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Nowhere Man

Friend of mine (retired Army officer) said to me two weeks ago Obama would do this. He said they will have no ties to our country and will follow a dictator. Said Hitler did similar.


24 posted on 07/22/2015 1:38:46 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Awaiting the Donald’s response on this.....three, two,one,blast off


25 posted on 07/22/2015 1:38:59 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Girouard v. United States 328 U.S. 61 (1946)


26 posted on 07/22/2015 1:39:11 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Marko413

I think it is all part and parcel of his destroying our military capability by all means available to him


27 posted on 07/22/2015 1:46:26 PM PDT by coldflamingo (Old Paratrooper/Nam Vet/Retired SFC USArmy)
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To: coldflamingo

What else could it be?


28 posted on 07/22/2015 1:48:28 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott Mexico)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
It's obama doing what he said he would do by forming a “ civilian defense force just as powerful as the military”.

The romans did the same thing, by recruiting foreigners, slaves, and the conquered into their armies.

Many here (agents and familiars of the government) will wholly approve of this strategy.

The US has crossed the rubicon, and went from being a constitutional republic to fascist empire. I'm surprised the republic lasted as long as it did. But then again, the US didn't even last the average 200 years that a republic usually lasts.

In the end, it didn't work out well for the romans, either.

29 posted on 07/22/2015 1:48:56 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

I doubt many Mexicans would defend the US against Mexico. I know muslims wouldn’t defend the US against muslims.


30 posted on 07/22/2015 1:49:30 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll never vote for another rino and it sickens me that I voted for McCain.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
 
 
Ah hum - "take up arms" against whom, exactly? Do I even have to ask that question.
 
 

31 posted on 07/22/2015 1:49:31 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: rdl6989

You are far from living it alone and it is real.


32 posted on 07/22/2015 2:07:26 PM PDT by mcshot (OMG Help needed.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Exactly!


33 posted on 07/22/2015 2:35:00 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Admin Moderator

Please alter the source to Washington Examiner. I accidentally attributed the article’s publication to the Wash Times. Thank you. Sorry for the bother.

Av


34 posted on 07/22/2015 3:12:39 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Fear govts that never dis & often employ Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases.)
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To: discostu

I find it interesting that one can raise their right hand to take an oath, even put their left hand on a Holy Bible, and what they say is not binding.

Everyone from people taking their oath of citizenship, to joining the military, to becoming President.

It means nothing.

Just the way the Left wants it.


35 posted on 07/22/2015 4:11:05 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla; All

IS THIS ANOTHER CONSTITUIONAL VIOLATION ?
Wasn’t that oath prescribed by acts of congress ? If so doesn’t any change require it to be amended by the same ? Not by some bureaucrat or even the POTUS.


36 posted on 07/22/2015 8:18:31 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: All; AAABEST; AdamSelene235; AnnaZ; Askel5; backhoe; BlackElk; Brian Allen; calcowgirl; ...

For unknown reasons this what seems to me to be unsettling story was removed from the sidebar where it had indeed, in a few short minutes, got responses very rapidly. Maybe one monitor sees it as just one more of many stories about bad policies and so no big deal. Nothing to see here, etc.

But given that initial interest and also given the nature of the “unforeseen” threat that this new OFFICIAL weakening of the oath of citizenship poses to all American citizens due to stories such as the one below, I am sending out alerts to my list.

Please forward this thread to your own if you agree.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-year-boy-shot-killed-cops-flashing-headlights-flexing-rights/


37 posted on 07/22/2015 10:41:21 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Fear govts that never dis & often employ Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Source

38 posted on 07/23/2015 1:52:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Obama: New citizens can skip pledge to take up arms and defend the U.S.

You mean, just like *he* did?

39 posted on 07/23/2015 4:03:21 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

In 2016, anyone who took the oath taking out the part about defending America...WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF AMERICA.


40 posted on 07/23/2015 8:12:05 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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