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Beam Me Up Scotty. The funniest line in any news article this week.
Red State ^ | July 5th, 2015 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/05/2015 8:11:28 PM PDT by xzins

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To: mrsmith

5601 bars of gold approx. What size bars? 12 pounders...?


81 posted on 07/06/2015 1:27:50 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (No white, no black,no slave or free,just washed in the red that Messiah bled!)
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To: mdmathis6; All; mrsmith

Standard bar of gold used for this purpose is 12.4 kg’s or 400 troy oz’s. Price of Gold is 1168.00 currently.
So if Texas has 5601 bars of gold at 400 oz’s per....let’s see...5601X400=2,240,400 oz’s. It’s current worth is 2.617 billion in currently valued dollars.....

Now do you see why Texas might want their gold back? Should gold make another run at 2000 an oz their gold becomes all the more valuable!


82 posted on 07/06/2015 1:39:18 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (No white, no black,no slave or free,just washed in the red that Messiah bled!)
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To: piytar

Standard bars of gold for trading weigh in at 400 troy oz’s.....if it is costing Texas 108 dollars a bar to house the gold or 605 thousand a year...then they have 5601.85 bars....(assuming 99.5 per cent purity) Texas gold’s worth is over 2 billion dollars at current valuation per ounce. I could see why Texas would want their gold back...plus why should the state want to pay a NY firm 605 thousand of Texas’ money that could be put to use in Texas’ economy?


83 posted on 07/06/2015 1:46:48 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (No white, no black,no slave or free,just washed in the red that Messiah bled!)
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To: xzins
Texas can feed itself. It has abundant energy and a few desalination plants would give it all the water it needs. Throw in a couple of deep water ports and a gold horde and you have more than most nations now.

My question is, how many states would go with it? Oklahoma? New Mexico? Arkansas? Louisiana? Then what? Would Kansas and Colorado be far behind? What about the deep south states?

84 posted on 07/06/2015 5:01:31 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: gaijin

I thought I read about this a year ago where Germany wanted to reclaim its gold reserves. You are correct, once i read a few articles, it completely disappeared from the new.


85 posted on 07/06/2015 5:03:07 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: editor-surveyor
Re post 39. Yes. This is something that none of us has experienced in our adult lives.

The conundrum is that, even as the monetary authorities increase the money supply, the abundant supply of currency goes up in value relative to scarce goods. This is obviously not a sustainable trend and the pendulum will swing the other way at some point. Violently.

86 posted on 07/06/2015 5:06:19 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: jimwatx

Holland has already repatriated their gold. The Ukraine’s gold is sitting in a vault somewhere in the US.


87 posted on 07/06/2015 5:08:14 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: xzins

If half of the outstanding gold futures contracts demanded delivery the exchanges would fold. The COMEX is a paper market.


88 posted on 07/06/2015 5:17:26 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: jimwatx

If you can’t hold it in your hand, you don’t own it because it is just a promise to pay.


89 posted on 07/06/2015 5:18:47 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: xzins

-——But, why now, Texas?——

De Blazio

HSBC is a private bank and not the Fed NYC. HSBC is formerly Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation, a British bank

the AP would have the 20 square feet of gold stored in the underground cement walled vaults


90 posted on 07/06/2015 5:23:30 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: xzins

It was very humorous, and got more so once I realized you were now going to have to reply pedantically to a bunch of people who would skim the thread and think you said fiat.


91 posted on 07/06/2015 5:24:31 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: rstrahan
...$108 a bar...

Wha? Dude, gold is over $1,000 an OUNCE! How much do your bars weigh?

92 posted on 07/06/2015 5:24:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Former Proud Canadian
If you can’t hold it in your hand, you don’t own it because it is just a promise to pay.

Oh I agree 100% though I fear in any actual financial collapse the government would quickly act to make gold transactions illegal or difficult - they aren't going to put up with any competition with their fiat currency.

93 posted on 07/06/2015 5:25:59 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Former Proud Canadian

>The Ukraine’s gold is sitting in a vault somewhere
>in the US.

Are you sure? Back during the beginning of their crisis Zerohedge had an article on a big armed convoy putting Ukraine’s gold on a plane to who knows where, and then months later we heard the gold was gone.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=21943

It sounds crazy to me, but then again, every day people get killed in the US over hundreds of dollars. I suppose if the means were there, somebody stealing a few tons of gold wouldn’t seem that strange.


94 posted on 07/06/2015 5:52:19 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: xzins

“But, why now, Texas? “

Why give money to Yankees to house what is ours when the alternative is plainly before you to let Texas make that money.

Seems like a very logical way to run your business.

Do you keep cash over a neighbor’s house or do you keep it in your own house?


95 posted on 07/06/2015 6:02:53 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“My question is, how many states would go with it? Oklahoma? New Mexico? Arkansas? Louisiana? Then what? Would Kansas and Colorado be far behind? What about the deep south states? “

We would need an even bigger wall to keep people out that want to come from other states.

There is nothing keeping Texas in the US other than the hesitancy of Texas leaders.

They conveniently forget that Texas is a sovereign state which aligns with other states for defense and certain other, clearly-enumerated items. It is not a subject of the federal government but instead deploys that government for its own ends.


96 posted on 07/06/2015 6:11:05 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: jimwatx
Let them. Supposedly, so many things are illegal that the average person commits 3 felonies a day and doesn't even realize it.

I cannot imagine the level of suppression that would be needed to enforce outlawing gold. Then again, I could not imagine a marxist moslem being elected president. Or re-elected.

97 posted on 07/06/2015 6:24:52 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: rikkir

If it’s 700 million dollars at 1200 an ounce, then we’ve got about 583,000 ounces or 36,000 pounds or 18 tons. An ounce cube is about .46 inch on a side. A pound is about 2.51 x .46 = 1.15” on a side for a pound. A ton would be, I think, about 12.6*1.15 = 14.5” per side.

Those just don’t compute for me. I can’t imagine how something little more than a one foot cube can weigh a ton.

Guess I’ve never dealt with gold all that much, or my numbers could be off.

Seems to me all 18 tons of it would be only a bit more than 2.5 feet on a side. I can’t fathom that. I’ve got a small wooden file cabinet about that size.


98 posted on 07/06/2015 6:28:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: AnonymousConservative

more than once... ;>)


99 posted on 07/06/2015 6:30:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins
would you call 25 square ‘feet’ of gold ‘flat currency’? :>)

A potential lifetime supply of toilet paper waiting for a third dimension?

100 posted on 07/06/2015 6:34:23 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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