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Ted Cruz: Some In GOP Are For 'Amnesty' Because It's Cheap Labor
NBC News ^ | JUL 5 2015 | SHAWNA THOMAS

Posted on 07/05/2015 1:35:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas said the "divisive" issue of what to do about the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants who live in the United States distracts from the problem of securing the borders.

"My view is first, we secure the borders and solve the problem of illegal immigration. And then I think we can have a conversation about what to do about the people who remain here," the Republican presidential candidate said on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday.

When pressed on the issue of the 11 million people already here he said, "President Obama and the Democrats focus on that issue because the question you're asking is the most divisive partisan question in this entire debate. And I don't believe President Obama wants to solve this."

Cruz also accused members of his own party of being supportive of "amnesty" — or giving undocumented immigrants who arrived illegally a way to stay in the United States.

"A lot of Republicans in the Washington cartel, they're all for amnesty too because from the perspective of the chamber of commerce and Wall Street, it's cheap labor," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cruz; tedcruz
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To: Hostage; CodeToad

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/3303928/posts?page=37#37


61 posted on 07/05/2015 3:17:33 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: The Toll
I’m just going to laugh when the left destroys them.

They should not have sold Americans out.

I'll bring the popcorn.

62 posted on 07/05/2015 3:19:19 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

What’s your point?

Oh, excuse me you don’t have one.


63 posted on 07/05/2015 3:46:55 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
What’s your point?

That your horseradish about "top talent" has already on further questioning amounted to nothing.

64 posted on 07/05/2015 3:50:24 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Mariner

Not to mention, many H-1Bs are here long enough they get a Green Card. They are not “temporary”.


65 posted on 07/05/2015 3:56:51 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Isara

“But he/she was not for a civil discussion. “

Hey, foreign worker lobbyist! I will NEVER be civil to those trying to undermine the United States and Americans! NEVER Get over yourself, jerk!


66 posted on 07/05/2015 3:59:54 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: ConservingFreedom

That’s not a point. That’s an embarrassing display of ignorance.

Ted Cruz has also stated that ISIS will be defeated when he is President but he has not disclosed how.

By your logic, his reticence in disclosing necessary troop strength, movements of armor, bomber deployments, drone schedules, specific strategies and backup plans is proof that he is not up to the job.


67 posted on 07/05/2015 4:01:20 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: paintriot
Where is Cruz on amnesty? All I have heard him say is secure the border then we’ll figure it out. Not bashing him at all. I was just wondering if he has mentioned his exact position.

"Just tell us your amnesty position! We want our 'GOTCHA' question answered NOW! Are you or are you not gonna deport these 11 million?! Tell us! TELL USSSS!"


68 posted on 07/05/2015 4:03:04 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Preach it, Ted!


69 posted on 07/05/2015 4:19:43 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: tennmountainman

There’s not a politician in America who refuses to say what he’ll do the with 30 million illegals already here until after the “border is secure” (read: after the campaign for the presidency) who isn’t also for amnesty himself.

If he’s for something else he should state what that something else is.


70 posted on 07/05/2015 4:27:09 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Hostage
Whoever becomes president CAN do any number of things to fix the H-1B mess - a candidate who explicitly and specifically states that he WILL do those things will have my support.

Ted Cruz has also stated that ISIS will be defeated when he is President but he has not disclosed how.

Has Cruz stated that he will fix H-1B - indeed, has he even stated that it needs fixing? If not, your analogy fails.

71 posted on 07/05/2015 4:40:00 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Just tell us your amnesty position!

I don't appear to be the only conservative holding out for a better answer than tell-you-later. Whether Cruz wants our support enough to answer this politically sensitive question is up to him.

72 posted on 07/05/2015 4:43:17 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: 9YearLurker

And who has said what you want to hear?


73 posted on 07/05/2015 4:43:32 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: tennmountainman

Notably, not a single candidate in the scam GOP.


74 posted on 07/05/2015 4:46:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CodeToad
But he/she was not for a civil discussion.

Hey, foreign worker lobbyist! I will NEVER be civil to those trying to undermine the United States and Americans! NEVER Get over yourself, jerk!

I've proved my point, haven't I?

I feel your pain, CodeToad. You also have a lot of fear. Don't let it turn into hatred. It's going to eat you alive. Resist it!

Remember, God is Love.

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

75 posted on 07/05/2015 4:56:17 PM PDT by Isara
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To: ConservingFreedom

Yes, Cruz has stated on numerous occasions in Congressional committees and in public of his plans for H1B which does not include issuing to companies who seek cheap labor.

The types of H1Bs that Cruz is seeking to issue are for companies that pay well with outstanding benefits, not cheap labor. The catch is the jobs are for seriously smart people, meaning geniuses.

Here’s one article where that’s evident:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/05/28/h1b-visas-senate-immigration-bill-editorials-debates/2367777/

Cruz has said numerous times he will not allow abuses of the system for cheap labor. And now he’s making it known that amnesty backers are interested in cheap labor. Cruz is not in anyway associated with the ‘Cheap Labor Express’. That you would think he is says more about you than him.

As for you, you will need to do your own homework. There are many things you can do to be of value to the forum. You can call Senator Cruz’ Senate offices or his presidential campaign offices. They will be happy to tell you where he stands on H1B and cheap labor abuses.

You can listen to the many recorded town halls where Ted has appeared and explained his views on immigration, cheap labor and H1B.

There are many more things you can do. But you have to do it, Don’t ask. I’ve given you one reference and there are many many more. Do the work yourself.


76 posted on 07/05/2015 5:07:32 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
The types of H1Bs that Cruz is seeking to issue are for companies that pay well with outstanding benefits, not cheap labor. The catch is the jobs are for seriously smart people, meaning geniuses.

Here’s one article where that’s evident:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/05/28/h1b-visas-senate-immigration-bill-editorials-debates/2367777/

This article - in which Cruz is not mentioned - is the usual whitewash for undercutting American workers; its claim that "There just aren't enough of those [seriously smart engineers and code writers] coming out of U.S. universities" is rebutted at http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/05/16/scholars-debunk-claims-of-high-tech-workers-shortage-question-industry-s-free-pass/ and elsewhere.

77 posted on 07/05/2015 5:34:35 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: tennmountainman

Agreed.


78 posted on 07/05/2015 6:04:01 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: ConservingFreedom

no you’re wrong.

I’m going let you in on a little secret that I know of personally.

All of the major research labs, companies, think tank facilities and universities always have slots open ALWAYS for the right caliber individual and .....

and ....

it has nothing to do with cheap labor.

And those jobs pay top dollar and are ALWAYS available to the right person. Unemployment could be 33% and these slots would still be open because ....

There are a breed of people that are genetically endowed to solve problems that in turn lead to innovation that in turn lead to new industries being formed or expanded.

Your little Breibart-Facebook-Zuckerberg support for Senator Jeff is not associated with the talent that pays top dollar. It is associated with the cheap labor express.

I personally know here in Seattle at Microsoft Research more than 20 individuals from Russia, the former Eastern Soviet bloc countries, from China and India, from Australia, New Zealand, England, Germany and Hungary who are top researchers alongside their American counterparts and who travel and work back and forth with the University of Washington, Berkeley, Stanford and many government research labs. They are not part of your little protest against the Cheap Labor lobby. They are the caliber of individuals that Ted Cruz wants companies and universities to have access to.

The link I posted stated that the slots available pay very well and that is the truth. And they will pay well and be available regardless of unemployment and without regard to country of origin including American born talent.

The best talent goes to the big leagues period no matter where that talent comes from. It’s obvious you have no experience in the big leagues of science and engineering.


79 posted on 07/05/2015 6:06:38 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SoConPubbie

When they get legal they stop being cheap.


80 posted on 07/05/2015 6:30:03 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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