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Republicans cast into turmoil as Donald Trump rides the populist surge
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | Juloy 5th, 2015 | By Philip Sherwell

Posted on 07/05/2015 7:02:06 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Slambat

Totally agree. As long as the people who hire them find it profitable and get away with doing it or at best a token fine, it will never sop. Also as long as they have access to welfare benefits. That’s the government allowing that. So between big business and big government, which work hand in glove, I don’t see how it will ever stop. Neither has an interest in stopping it. The votes of the majority of American citizens mean nothing when stacked against the interests of big government aligned with big business.


21 posted on 07/05/2015 7:31:53 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: AlaskaErik

“Is he running interference for Hitlery by dragging down the Republican Party?”

Trump is very successfully attacking everything Hillary espouses. How is that running interference for her?


22 posted on 07/05/2015 7:31:55 AM PDT by odawg
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To: AlaskaErik

“Is he running interference for Hitlery by dragging down the Republican Party?”

As it stands right now, the republican party is pretty low
already. If anything he is bringing it up. It’s hard to
imagine the party ever having a spine and it’s only natural
that when one shows up people mistake it as “interference for Hitlery”.


23 posted on 07/05/2015 7:33:03 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: hinckley buzzard
Trump has become this year's Ross Perot

Except that Trump is nobody's fool. He will learn from Perot's biggest mistakes, which were not choosing an excellent VP running mate and going third party when the third party wasn't viable in all 50 states.

If you mean Trump is this year's Ross Perot in that Perot was correct about NAFTA and Trump is correct about criminals entering the US illegally through our porous border with Mexico, that's a valid comparison. Also, in both cases the puppetmasters in the Republican Party didn't want to hear anything about what's best for the nation.

What they aren't factoring in is that Trump has become the lightening rod attracting folks who aren't just concerned about the invasion of the US, but about all the other issues for which we get no or only minimal support from the establishment. I wonder if Trump might get enough electoral votes to choose the next nominee.

24 posted on 07/05/2015 7:33:33 AM PDT by grania
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To: sakic

Securing the border is my number one issue. There are only two candidates I trust on that. Cruz and Trump.

Cruz is definitely my first choice. Trump will secure the border and be no better or worse than the rest.

Walker would be a distant third. I’m convinced he is more of a corporatist than a conservative. His record is very weak on illegals (opposing a border fence, setting up a Mexican Consulate in WI, supporting amnesty as a county executive, etc.)

It’s sad that only 2 of the GOP candidates care about Americans first over illegals. The GOP has grown too accustomed to the base holding their noses and supporting them. No more.


25 posted on 07/05/2015 7:34:00 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Mariner

Trump is like the little kid saying....”the Emperor has no clothes”...


26 posted on 07/05/2015 7:35:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: AlaskaErik

The GOP doesn’t need any help from Trump. They are doing a great job of destroying themselves with no help from anyone.


27 posted on 07/05/2015 7:36:46 AM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: AlaskaErik

No, he’s lifting up the party that the GOPe broke.


28 posted on 07/05/2015 7:36:49 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Looking back, it is easy to conclude that Ross Perot was an obvious plant, whose "populist" campaign was designed to suck away votes so that Clinton could get elected. Despite being mostly perceived as an eccentric laughingstock (like Trump is today), Perot still managed to obtain 20% of the vote that November. This is after having dropped out of the race in a huff (some nonsense about a plot to disrupt his daughter's wedding) and then getting back into the race with a running mate (Admiral Stockdale) who despite being a fine man, was woefully unprepared for the national stage and the vice presidency.

Even with all that, Perot managed to get 20% as a third party candidate and despite what others try to tell us, that was the difference in the election. Bush would have beaten Clinton otherwise.

Now we have another Bush and another Clinton in the running and surprise, we have another straight-talking "populist" candidate shaking things up and looking to be a real disruptive force.

So is Donald Trump really a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton?

I have to say that I have my concerns that this is true. Trump is on record as saying that Clinton was his "favorite president" and he said this recently.

Can any of the Trump boosters out there speak to that?

29 posted on 07/05/2015 7:36:52 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: AlaskaErik

Bush, Romney, Rubio, Boehnor, McConnell, Graham, McCain, Ryan, McCarthy, Christie, Priebus, and others are the ones dragging down the Republican Party.

Trump and Cruz are simply turning on the lights for all to see.

Sadly the majority of the GOP and their candidates care more about catering to illegals than they do to you.


30 posted on 07/05/2015 7:37:51 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: odawg

“Trump is very successfully attacking everything Hillary espouses. How is that running interference for her?”

The bad thing is that almost everything Hillary espouses is the same as Bush, Rubio, Graham, Romney, Christie, Pataki, etc


31 posted on 07/05/2015 7:39:56 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Mariner

One thing for sure - Trump has shown the light on how important the illegals are to the GOPe.

I hope some of the families of those killed, maimed, raped by the illegal aliens will publicly support Trump.


32 posted on 07/05/2015 7:42:12 AM PDT by Aria
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To: sakic

The article posted says that Trump called Mexicans rapists and drug dealers. Like or hate him, that’s not what the man said.

I love him for two reasons Trump has been misquoted everywhere but do you see the man making excuses or apologizing?

The “conservatives” that supposedly represent us aren’t “conservative” at all. With Trump at least I know what I’m getting.


33 posted on 07/05/2015 7:44:05 AM PDT by Honcho
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To: SamAdams76

If it comes down to Bush vs. Clinton...does it even matter who wins? The agendas are almost exactly the same.

At least if Clinton wins the GOP will put up some token opposition based upon party lines....otherwise they will just be complicit and support the exact same agenda when it comes out of Bush’s mouth.


34 posted on 07/05/2015 7:44:21 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: sakic
Trump is a pompous ahole

And how has nominating wimpy nice guys who don't fight back worked out for the Republicans?

Bob Dole?
John McCain?
Mitt Romney?

Maybe the country NEEDS a pompous ahole to shake things up and cut thru the nonsense ....


35 posted on 07/05/2015 7:45:20 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Mariner

Twenty five percent of Mexico NOW lives in the United States.

That’s an outrage.

Americans are sick of illegals...


36 posted on 07/05/2015 7:45:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (The left's perfectly happy with slavery so long as they're holding the whip..Billthedrill)
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Trump reminds me somewhat of the character John Goodman played in the recent film “The Gambler”. The ability to say F... You, to anyone because you are not beholding to them, in control of your life, and continue to do what needs to be done. And at the end, when he offered that money to the character Whalberg played, and the character to him F... You, He said, Good boy, don’t be beholding to anyone.


37 posted on 07/05/2015 7:46:45 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: AlaskaErik

If the GOP- E was all about doing amnesty, does that even matter? At least he is bringing the subject up and making the candidate’s positions on this issue known. I think he is doing the people a great service.


38 posted on 07/05/2015 7:47:07 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SamAdams76
"Can any of the Trump boosters out there speak to that? "

I don't know that one could call me a Trump booster, but I am very appreciative of his wrecking ball style against every established institution inf NYC and DC.

That said, everything looks to me like he's in this to win. And, I believe he thinks he can win.

Ask yourself the opposite question and you'll have your answer: What could incent Trump to take this level of nationwide vitriol if it was not to win the big prize?

Does Hillary have enough money to pay him off? Is he so committed to leftist causes that he would endeavor to destroy their opposition, and pay the price with his own personal destruction?

No, Trump is in this to win it. And I believe if he continues down the road he's on he's got a very good chance of winning the whole enchilada.

39 posted on 07/05/2015 7:49:15 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: mrsmel

“I don’t see how it will ever stop.”

One of the main reasons people hire me is because I don’t
hire wetback workers and sub contractors and I let that be
know when I’m selling a job. I have friends who are in the
lawn care business and work is booming for them for the
same reason. People really don’t want wetbacks in their
house, on their property or in their buildings.


40 posted on 07/05/2015 7:56:19 AM PDT by Slambat
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