Posted on 07/04/2015 9:20:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Shes a former Nation of Islam member turned passionate defender of the Confederate flag and her views on race, slavery and the South are guaranteed to stir up controversy.
Karen Cooper a black woman who belongs to a pro-Confederate flag group in Virginia told a documentary on the rebel flag that she believes it stands for far more than the Souths history of slave ownership, and views it as a symbol of rebellion against an overreaching federal government.
In an interview for the documentary Battle Flag she said I actually think that [the flag] represents freedom
Im not advocating slavery or think that it was right.
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I think the stronger phrasing for us to use is that this is a fight AGAINST BANNING. I think many Lefties and most in the Mushy Middle would finally start realizing what's really going on. When both sides say they're "for freedom", the idiots get lost quickly. Differentiate ourselves, and I think we can make more progress.
But again, good for her.
So what race were all the Freedmen in the southern states as listed in the 1860 census?
You are the idiot. Not every black in the south was a slave, just as the vast majority of whites were not slaveholders.
Free blacks in Virginia numbered 58,042 on the eve of the American Civil War (18611865), or about 44 percent of the future Confederacy's free black population. Of the slave states, only Maryland had a larger population, with 83,942. Free blacks were concentrated in Virginia's cities. According to the 1860 census, the greatest number, 3,244, resided in Petersburg, followed by Richmond with 2,576, Alexandria with 1,415, and Norfolk with 1,046. Free blacks included men and women of African descent who were born free or who gained their freedom before the war through manumission.
You’re the idiot. The Confederacy did not give freedom to blacks read the Confederate constitution.
Read the Confederate constitution. Blacks in the Confederacy were not equal to whites and could not own property.
The Confederacy was freedom for white males especially the wealthy ones.
You don't have a CLUE do you? Know your history and WTFU.
The Civil WAr was NOT about slavery.
First things first, the 16th president of the United States, Abraham Lincoln; Lincoln was NOT an abolitionist. William Lloyd Garrison, the most prominent of all abolitionists, concluded that Lincoln "had not a drop of anti-slavery blood in his veins." Lincoln was against social and political equality of the races, he opposed inter-racial marriages, supported the Illinois Constitution's prohibition of immigration of blacks into the state, defended a slave owner who was seeking to retrieve his runaway slaves but never defended slaves or runaways themselves, and he was a lifelong advocate of colonization - of sending every last black person in the U.S. to Africa, Haiti, or central America - anywhere but in the United States.
According to the people who were there it was.
"Our people have come to this on the question of slavery. I am willing, in that address to rest it upon that question. I think it is the great central point from which we are now proceeding, and I am not willing to divert the public attention from it." - Lawrence Keitt
"The South had always been solid for slavery and when the quarrel about it resulted in a conflict of arms, those who had approved the policy of disunion took the pro-slavery side. It was perfectly logical to fight for slavery, if it was right to own slaves."" - John S. Mosby
"What did we go to war for, if not to protect our [slave] property?" - CSA senator from Virgina, Robert Hunter, 1865
"But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution." - Alexander Stephens
That was true in most Northern states as well.
That type of willing belief allows anyone to put you into this UNIQUE latter category.
There are those who do not know and do not know that they do not know they are dangerous and should be shunned.
And then there are those who do not know and think they do. They are more dangerous.
Give it a rest!
The woman is airing her POV and it sounds like your racist roots are showing.
Give it a rest!
The woman is airing her POV and it sounds like your racist roots are showing.
And that is how a Democrat argues their opinion by accusing dissenters of being Racist when they lose the argument.
The rainbow flag has much more potential damage to our country than the rebel battle flag.
I'm a CONSERVATIVE. When somebody sounds racist i assume they ARE either RACIST or naive. Take your pick.
But then, come to think of it, you would KNOW LIBERALS because you sound just like one.
I’m a CONSERVATIVE. When somebody sounds racist i assume they ARE either RACIST or naive. Take your pick.
But then, come to think of it, you would KNOW LIBERALS because you sound just like one.
Its a first to be accused of being a racist for pointing out the pro-slavery section within the Confederate Constitution.
Against slavery=racist...welcome to the Twilight Zone
Not all blacks in the south were slaves. That idea is ridiculous. There were even blacks in the south who OWNED slaves, some were more cruel than whites.
I’ve heard this a lot recently. No gives citation like a book to show it truly happened.
Thanks. It looks interesting. History is very complex, isn’t it?
http://conservative-headlines.com/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/
It is so complex, that the evidence seems to show that the first slave owner of a negro was a negro! All of the “slaves” prior to that were indentured servants. Kept for a period of time to pay off debts and then released. But this guy sued to keep his servant - and won!
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