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In Defense of Donald Trump
Townhall.com ^ | July 2, 2015 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 07/02/2015 4:36:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’m not even going to bother deconstructing stupidity. Its a waste of time because stupidity by its nature is too stupid to know how stupid it is.

Years ago while making door skins for Cadillacs in a union shop, I heard a constant drum beat about the evils of outsourcing from people sitting on their asses. Aside from the obvious problem I began to see the complexity of modern cars and the infeasibility of producing a totally American made car. there were probably 30 different companies involved in creating the parts and pieces that made up the final product I sent out the door to Cadillac. Making a totally American made car line would take up so much of the workforce that other industries would suffer.

The Cadillac job was the bread and butter job that carried the bulk of the cost for the shop while other departments made parts for Fords, Toyotas, Chryslers etc. Not all jobs are feasible by themselves and the smaller the mass produced part the more infeasible it becomes to pay someone $15 per hour to produce.


41 posted on 07/02/2015 5:40:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; C. Edmund Wright

you assume a constancy that doesn’t exist. all you consider relevant is the result of a fluke of history

at the close of the second world war and for say 50 years there after the world was getting over the destruction wrought by the war. once things began to normalize and business and industry resumed functionality, the need to rely on America diminished. during the period, Americans achieved prosperity resulting from continued escalation of wages and salaries. That escalation was not sustainable.

at some point it became less expensive and more competitive for companies to subcontract their manufacturing in places not subject to the excessive demands of American workers. Competition killed the golden goose.

additionally, with the advent of container shipping and instantaneous communications, and document transfer, companies could operate globally...... and do.

And, China is in transition. the business in china is Chicaps, not totally Chicoms. I know you can’t grasp that simple fact but it is true. that fact once understood leads to the ultimate understanding.

you just plain don’t understand your basis for understanding is out of date at least 50 years


42 posted on 07/02/2015 5:45:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Anyone who thinks they can punish business into returning to America is a fool.


43 posted on 07/02/2015 5:47:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Kaslin
(From 2011) Donald Trump: We Need A Health Care System Like What Canada Has

“We must have universal healthcare,” wrote Trump. “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses.”

The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. “Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork,”

44 posted on 07/02/2015 5:51:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: cripplecreek
Anyone who thinks they can punish business into returning to America is a fool.

Yep - and the irony is, it's punishment of businesses by our own government that drove them away in the first place, through central planning and big government - and these fools don't realize that is exactly what they are advocating themselves.

45 posted on 07/02/2015 5:51:37 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: bert; C. Edmund Wright; central_va; Cringing Negativism Network
And, China is in transition. the business in china is Chicaps, not totally Chicoms. I know you can’t grasp that simple fact

But I don't give two sh**s about China. If in order for 500 of my neighbors to get their jobs back every living Chinaman had to eat grass, I'd be fine with that.

46 posted on 07/02/2015 5:55:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

If we want business to come back to America, we need to sweeten the pot, not spray them in the face with pepper spray.


47 posted on 07/02/2015 5:56:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Jim Noble
But I don't give two sh**s about China. If in order for 500 of my neighbors to get their jobs back every living Chinaman had to eat grass, I'd be fine with that.

F China. F Mexico.

48 posted on 07/02/2015 6:03:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jim Noble

you miss the point entirely....... the chinamen don’t want to eat grass. they are beyond just being satisfied with rice and want more

your 500 neighbors are never going to revert to what was. the future demands they compete

it is not a matter of liking or disliking China. China is an emerging economic force to be reckoned with. the same is true of the Pacific Rim, not just China


49 posted on 07/02/2015 6:08:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Are you defending jobs that US citizens could be doing going overseas or being filled by non-citizens in the US?

Unions are already to a great degree in check. It's up to US citizens to elect pols who can't be bought off by them. Add to that, one of the most obnoxious unions (SEIU?) supports invader labor. Union excesses can be brought under control, in fact it might be a good thing if a union came along that actually represented a living wage and decent conditions and EVerify for its members.

50 posted on 07/02/2015 6:08:24 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

do you have any idea why companies are off shoring? That is, any idea that’s not part of Richard Trumka’s or Bernie Sanders’ talking points?

I didn’t think so.


51 posted on 07/02/2015 6:10:06 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Do you have any idea why companies are off shoring?

To take advantage of slave and near-slave wages and working conditions. It's not to give us lower prices. When I can find them (and it's getting easier) made in the USA products are price-competitive with comparable quality products that are imported.

52 posted on 07/02/2015 6:13:06 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
When I can find them (and it's getting easier) made in the USA products are price-competitive with comparable quality products that are imported.

Wholesale white t-shirts cost me $1.75, v. $6 for American made. American garments aren't competitive. Besides, who wants to make t-shirts? T-shirt manufacturing is the entry point for poor countries into foreign trade.

53 posted on 07/02/2015 6:16:20 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: grania

Yep right out of the socialist play book, and obviously written by someone who’s never actually had to run a business.

I knew you would step right into this steaming pile. You are eaten up with liberal class envy and rage and don’t even know it. Sad really.


54 posted on 07/02/2015 6:18:14 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: cripplecreek

Our jobs have left this country due to the REGULATIONS an employer faces everyday employing someone!!!! OMG you have to watch EVERY WORD you say in the work place, there are sooooooo many employee laws in place an employer can be sued at the drop of a hat this is WHY jobs have left our country!!!!! I mean I want employees to have a safe work place however this country has taken employing someone to the extreme and the cost of this to employers is NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!


55 posted on 07/02/2015 6:19:01 AM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kaslin

Well let’s see the statistics on Mexicans raping and being raped before Trump is written off. Even if ten rapist illegals get into our country...that is too much.


56 posted on 07/02/2015 6:22:00 AM PDT by jetson (Can I catch you a delicious bass...)
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To: bert; C. Edmund Wright; cripplecreek; central_va; Cringing Negativism Network
the future demands they compete

Can you flesh that out a little for me?

I live in a 99.98% white town. We have a reasonable high school with a GREAT vocational program. Really smart kids leave town and go to Stanford, Duke, and Harvard. Lots of kids go to UNH.

Lots also stay. Their parents are, or were, line workers making clothing and small electronics.

When you say the bottom half of the white population have to "compete", what exactly do you mean? Compete at what? Compete with whom?

These people will ALWAYS need a place to go to work where a supervisor tells them what to do and how to do it, in exchange for good effort, regular attendance, and reasonable output.

They are not going to start writing code and starting social media companies.

If they don't have work, they will provide a steady supply of depression, self-harm, petty criminality, and drug use.

That's not what I want for the future of America.

57 posted on 07/02/2015 6:22:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I buy quality products that last forever. American Giant is an example of a company that makes high-quality natural fabric tee shirts and sweatshirts in the USA. They cost a bit more, but don’t wear out. FWIW, for the cheaper stuff, Honduras and the Dominican Republican produce good quality tee shirts, and I think with (1) fair working conditions and (2)providing near-shore jobs that employ people who might otherwise be invading the US.


58 posted on 07/02/2015 6:22:49 AM PDT by grania
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To: C. Edmund Wright
 photo anigif_enhanced-buzz-23945-1358364765-13_zpsqg0nnvl6.jpg [Damn, expand your teeny mind.] He can't.
59 posted on 07/02/2015 6:26:07 AM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Ran a Math remediation business, individually and as a subcontractor to others offering similar services. Did very well. What did us in? Government regulation and public schools deliberately undermining private enterprise alternatives.

Thinking about getting back into it, have a business plan in mind. Any input about the most effective way to get my brand out there? Go big with advertising or go small with individual successes and gradually move up?

60 posted on 07/02/2015 6:27:08 AM PDT by grania
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