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US Jews among biggest supporters of same-sex marriage, data shows
JTA.org ^ | 6/28/2015 | None given

Posted on 06/29/2015 3:04:59 PM PDT by NetAddicted

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To: Yomin Postelnik; All
The Talmud in Chullin (92B), states that there are three merits that the nations of the world have that sustain life. They honor the Torah, they do not openly practice cannibalism and they do not formalize a union of a man and a man with a contract.

From this Jewish perspective, I am astounded by this information, astounded by the fact that scholars in the Talmudic era would have even thought about the perverse idea of what currently would be called "gay marriage" and mention it. Does this mean that they knew that "gay marriage" was sanctioned in some (uncivilized) societies at the time? Also, why didn't the Talmud writers have an explicit position against a formal union of two lesbians?

61 posted on 07/01/2015 3:31:03 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: NetAddicted

Most “Jews” are flat-out atheists.


62 posted on 07/01/2015 3:32:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: justiceseeker93; All

It says that this perversion was done in Ancient Egypt as well as right before the flood. Torah and rabbinic writings lay the groundwork for the permissibility or lack thereof of very modern inventions as well. G-d’s will is eternal and complete.

As to two women, it is considered a)immodest and improper b) part of the prohibition of the law against “going in the ways of Egypt,” etc. The Talmud does extol the virtue of morality, and specifically of modesty and of staying away from things that cause one to go astray, but it recognizes that there is a difference in the level of prohibition (or at the very least strong condemnation of the idea). In one case there’s no actual union and just bad behavior. Among men, the same can’t be said and any insertion anywhere is a sin that one is commanded to give their lives not to do.


63 posted on 07/01/2015 6:14:39 PM PDT by Yomin Postelnik
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To: dfwgator

Not most. But liberalism is sick. It sought to attach itself to well meaning Jewish values such as compassion, and used that as a fishing hook for the uninformed. And it’s sad and disgraceful that so many were hooked and know nothing of their heritage, a heritage that has served as the foundational basis for all monotheistic religions.


64 posted on 07/01/2015 6:16:41 PM PDT by Yomin Postelnik
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To: justiceseeker93

Despite Christian claims to the contrary, there is a sharp distinction made by Jewish traditional teaching between Biblical prohibitions such as a man with a man, which merits the death penalty, and Rabbinic prohibitions such as a woman with a woman, for which there is no Biblical penalty attached, but which nevertheless is a sin and prohibited.

The Ein Yaakov (compilation from the Talmud) mentions that a culture that recognizes marriage contracts between men does not merit to exist.

Cannibalism: It should be noted that the actual language indicates a prohibition of the sale of human flesh, touching on today’s medical ethics.


65 posted on 07/01/2015 6:29:24 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (I paid for an argument, but you're just contradicting!)
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To: justiceseeker93

In urban areas, “Stockholm Syndrome”..


66 posted on 07/01/2015 10:10:28 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Netz; All
Israelis in Israel can tell you that 90% of them would have voted for McCain and then Romney because it was apparent FROM THE OUTSET that Obama would distance himself from America's ONLY STABLE, RELIABLE, DEMOCRATIC, FREE, LIBERAL society in the entire region.

Turns out that among Americans in Israel, those who actually DID vote in the 2008 and 1012 presidential elections from abroad, something like 85% voted Republican, according to what I've heard.

67 posted on 07/02/2015 5:25:59 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Netz; All
American Jewry is different in that they are far more ASSIMILATED with the rest of an increasingly Liberal society.

Wouldn't Canadian Jewry be similar in those respects? Yet the majority of Canadian Jews voted for the pro-Israel "Conservative" PM Harper and his party in the last Canadian national election, after years of left leaning anti-Israel regimes in Ottawa.

68 posted on 07/02/2015 5:32:22 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Right on and that’s the truth! They know the score.


69 posted on 07/03/2015 8:09:14 AM PDT by Netz
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To: justiceseeker93
Not sure about Cannuck Jews. They tend to be more Conservative I think than their stupid brethren down south. No doubt, Harper is great. I grew up in Detroit and it was a world of difference across the bridge (or tunnel) into Windsor, Ontario. Light night and day so the electorate there is probably more astute.
70 posted on 07/03/2015 8:11:59 AM PDT by Netz
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A "Messianic Believer" is called a Christian.

When you and other orthodox Jews stop calling secular Jews, "Jews" then you might have a case.

Jesus was Jewish, the 12 Apostles & Saul/Paul: Jewish. The writers of the 27 New Testament books, with one exception: Jewish. There were at least a dozen Jewish sects in the 1st Century, and what became called "Christianity" was one of them (originally called "the Way" or the "followers of the Nazarene"). It just happened to be far more successful in appealing to Gentiles than any other sect.

Despite the conflicts between ethnically Gentile Christians and ethnic Jews through the centuries, Christianity is a profoundly Jewish religion.

Leadership in modern Messianic Jewish congregations are ethnically Jewish, know Hebrew, and usually have many years of training--and are not "self-righteous chameleon Christians putting on a yarmuke...."

The ONLY group of Jews consistently singled out by Orthodox Jews as NOT Jewish, are not the atheists, or agnostic left-wing anti-Israel traitors to your faith--just those who think the claims of a Jewish carpenter 2000 years ago were true. THAT kind of prejudice should stop.

71 posted on 07/07/2015 7:42:15 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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Leadership in modern Messianic Jewish congregations are ethnically Jewish, know Hebrew, and usually have many years of training--and are not "self-righteous chameleon Christians putting on a yarmuke...."

Name one fifi. You are typical... I can name maybe ten like you... Boys from the Catholic schools I went to who got a hankering to be Jews at about 30, but who couldn't read the First Commandment and who couldn't give themselves to Jesus without a backup plan. Pathetic, all of them, and incapable of discussing scripture without devolving into a talk about their own unpaid debts and multiple divorces. So tired of parasite pagans with borrowed names and "Sanhedrin" hats. Jesus, were he a Jew, would be ashamed of your sorry rat fink asses.
72 posted on 07/07/2015 4:56:30 PM PDT by golux
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To: AnalogReigns

Look at how ashamed you are to call yourself a Christian... Says it all. Truly this is your least Jewish attribute - your shame. Alas surely you are more Jewish and Christian than I, and more of everything than anyone else, and that’s the way it stands, master of scripture and child of lonely interpretation.


73 posted on 07/07/2015 4:59:30 PM PDT by golux
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