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What Did Your Pastor Say?
July 29, 2015 | Vanity

Posted on 06/29/2015 6:43:31 AM PDT by yetidog

If you attended church, synagouge, temple, mosque etc. did your pastor say anything about recent USSC rulings?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: churchservices; churchsvcfollowup; gaymarriage; pastoralcoments; scotusssmdecision
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To: who knows what evil?

We can use the internet, just like the liberals do!

Hallelujah! :-)


61 posted on 06/29/2015 7:15:41 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: envisio

“My church doesn’t get into politics. Thats one of the reasons I like it.”

You. Will. Be. Made. To. Care.

Make no mistake, at some point soon, the left will force you and your church to take one side or another.

From Erick Erickson — not my own original thought, but 100% true.


62 posted on 06/29/2015 7:15:57 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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To: Straight Vermonter
We heard that we should be careful not to let our hearts turn to hate. That we are called to love others even when they are wrong. Also, fear not, that nothing, nothing, nothing changes the Church’s teaching on marriage.

Well said. That's been my prayer since Friday. Judgment is in God's hands. My job is to show Christ to the world.

63 posted on 06/29/2015 7:16:06 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Romans Nine
God is no less sovereign today than he was last Monday.

Yes, He is the One in ultimate control of affairs of men and our Nation's leaders have been an affront to Him and are not yet repenting publicly.

The wild and woolly thing is...

All these things that happened last week in America and elsewhere are working together for GOOD to those who love God and are the called according to HIS purposes.
64 posted on 06/29/2015 7:16:44 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: boycott

Check Out “Rolling Thunder” every Memorial Day Weekend.

I have participated in 9 of them.


65 posted on 06/29/2015 7:16:55 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: yetidog

Also — we shouldn’t be surprised that sinners do sinful things. The thing to focus on, personally, is that we’re Christians — are we doing CHRISTIAN things? Are we living like Christ?

There’s no way in heaven or hell that our pastor will ever “marry” 2 homosexuals. Ever. One pastor’s wife was crying in a conversation with a friend because she and her husband understand exactly what price they might have to pay.


66 posted on 06/29/2015 7:18:34 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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To: yetidog

Nothing explicit was said about the ruling, but then we had a substitute preacher as our regular pastor was on vacation.

HOWEVER, the lay minister who gave the announcements at the beginning of the service said merely, “Please take note of the Church Seminar announced in the Bulletin.”

Evidently, they have scheduled two evening sessions to teach the Biblical view of homosexuality. They were very cryptic about the location of these sessions, as if they feared hecklers/protesters, and did not state it in the bulletin.


67 posted on 06/29/2015 7:18:47 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: envisio
My church doesn’t get into politics.

"Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."

68 posted on 06/29/2015 7:18:49 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: envisio
My church doesn’t get into politics.

Then the government will get into your lukewarm church.

Will you use fat black markers or whiteout to blank the passages they tell you to?

69 posted on 06/29/2015 7:19:26 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: yetidog

I went to church and just got angrier than I already was. During prayer and praise requests a woman raised her hand and proceeded to gush over what a historic week it was, and how proud she was that such a thing could happen in this country. The pastor tried to be as neutral as possible and said something like, our congregation’s feelings cover the spectrum on this issue, that we need to be compassionate and that our denomination is one of the few that attempts to “hold the tension” between the two sides. I left furious. One, that the woman who spoke just assumed that everyone agreed with her, and two, that the pastor did not articulate a clear position.

So when I got home I looked up the official position of the Evangelical Covenant Church, and found that it does affirm traditional marriage and does not allow same-sex unions to be performed. For now, at least. So I emailed the pastor and told her my feelings and fears, and that pretty soon it’s not going to be possible to “hold the tension”, as she put it, because the church will need to take a clear stand. If ministers are forced into performing gay “weddings” there’s no room for faking it. Besides, I’m not sure what “holding the tension” means, anyway. And how can Christians take any other view except that it’s wrong?

Anyway, I’m meeting with the pastor this morning to hash these things out. I’ll let you know what she said. This whole thing has me really distressed. I want to respond in the way Christ would, which I’m sure isn’t with the murderous rage I feel towards Obama, the SCOTUS, and the Left in general. If anyone has any suggestions to achieve “Serentity Now” I would appreciate them.


70 posted on 06/29/2015 7:19:38 AM PDT by madmominct
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To: yetidog

We began the service with a srirring rendition OF “God Bless America, Again!” with patriotic themes on the big screen.

My pastor then said we are in the darkest times and he and the deacons were meeting that afternoon to discuss the future policy of wedding held at church.

The service was on prayer and there was an alter call where 90% of the congregation came down to pray God’s will be done.


71 posted on 06/29/2015 7:20:34 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: envision; US Navy Vet; fwdude; Bryanw92
No. We praised Jesus. My church doesn’t get into politics.

"blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness ..."


72 posted on 06/29/2015 7:20:38 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (A Christian man who is content to be ruled by Elena Kagan is no Christian and not a man.)
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To: the lone haranguer

Ephesians 5, no fellowship with evildoers or their supporters. Mark and avoid.

God doesn’t separate the sin the sinner without their repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ. We should reprove and admonish but have no fellowship.


73 posted on 06/29/2015 7:20:46 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: SamuraiScot

Same at a tradition-loving Catholic parish in New Orleans. Nine people walked out.


74 posted on 06/29/2015 7:20:48 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: yetidog

16 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.

2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.

5 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?

6 But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.

7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:


75 posted on 06/29/2015 7:21:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: left that other site

Give your pastor a big hug for me!:)


76 posted on 06/29/2015 7:21:30 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: dila813
said that they haven’t received guidance yet.

Are Bibles on back-order or something? I could mail them one of my extra Bibles if they're lacking guidance. (/sarc)

But seriously, how are pastors (aka shepherds) going to guide the flock when they're unable to find guidance for themselves?

Here's what Paul said to the Ephesian church's pastors:

"Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood...And now I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you the inheritance among all them that are sanctified." - Acts 20:28,32

So we see the job a church's shepherds are to do, and where they are to receive the guidance for that job.
77 posted on 06/29/2015 7:22:03 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: madmominct
So I emailed the pastor and told her...

I think I may have found your congregation's problem in this matter.
78 posted on 06/29/2015 7:23:02 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I agree, Tex. We are not supposed to judge whether a person is going to heaven or hell; that’s God’s job. We are, however, called to discern sin or evil behavior and move ourselves away from it. We should always love the sinner enough to try and make sure that he/she understands the sin, and like the rest of us poor, miserable sinners, repents so he/she can receive forgiveness and avoid God’s wrath on the unrepentant. (and pray that other believers love us enough to do the same)

Sadly, though, this love we are called to demonstrate doesn’t support the sin and makes the sinner feel bad about themselves. So we become “bigots” in their eyes. It’s easier to name call than it is to acknowledge our own sin.


79 posted on 06/29/2015 7:23:47 AM PDT by the lone haranguer (All civilized men love peace, but all truly civilized men must despise pacifism.)
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To: so_real

Thanks for your encouragement! As an ultra-conservative LCMS congregant, we sometimes forget that we are all in the same boat when it comes to these attacks on the Church.

Pray without ceasing! God’s blessings on your congregation and Pastor.


80 posted on 06/29/2015 7:26:13 AM PDT by the lone haranguer (All civilized men love peace, but all truly civilized men must despise pacifism.)
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