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Why the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage could lead to civil war
http://allenbwest.com ^ | June 26, 2015 | Allen B. West

Posted on 06/26/2015 9:31:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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Dissenting Justice Antonin Scalia summed up his disgust with this ruling in a footnote on page 7 (note 22). He says, “If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: ‘The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,’ I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.”
1 posted on 06/26/2015 9:31:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

“If the world hates you, remember that the world hated me first. If you

belonged to the world, then the world would love you like it loves its

own people. But I have chosen you out of the world. So you don’t belong

to the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the lesson I

told you: A servant is not greater than his master. If people did wrong

to me, then they will do wrong to you too.”
John 18:15


2 posted on 06/26/2015 9:32:52 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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Furthermore, we are in effect nullifying the First Amendment.

... And the 10th has been long dead.
3 posted on 06/26/2015 9:33:26 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: NKP_Vet

His lips to God’s ears. It’s time to make a break for it. “Flyoverland” has no chance of restoring this mess to it’s former greatness, so let’s get out while there’s still time.


4 posted on 06/26/2015 9:35:38 AM PDT by Bluewater2015 (There are no coincidences)
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To: Sopater

It will be a new revolution against tyranny, not a civil war.


5 posted on 06/26/2015 9:35:45 AM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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It's time to kneel down and pray for our nation
6 posted on 06/26/2015 9:36:07 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Yea, this is going to bring about shots fired, it will lead to it. Conservative and Religious Americans aren’t going to take it laying down.


7 posted on 06/26/2015 9:36:34 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.


8 posted on 06/26/2015 9:37:20 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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“And let me be clear, the Hispanic community is very religious, traditional and family-oriented as well. An ill-conceived assault against the church — a rallying point across the minority communities — could bode dismay for the liberal progressives of the Democrat party heading into the 2016 election year.”

The blacks are too busy killing each other and defacing statues, and can barely manage to get married on accident.

The Hispanics are too busy carving out a new central American republic out west to give a damn.


9 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:11 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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Well, he is right about one thing. The Christian right did indeed make sure a Republican didn’t win the White House.


10 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:16 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Salvation

We have been praying - for years. God has apparently left us to our own devices.

We will get what we deserve.


11 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:22 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NKP_Vet

The “theory” of Countervailing Forces will become law after this, IMO. I’m just waiting to see the progressives try to make Imams in Dearbornistan perform same sex weddings.


12 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:24 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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With “America” now such an evil abomination, anything that shreds the country apart is fine by me. Ultimately, the only route to survival is going to be secession.


13 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:32 AM PDT by greene66
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The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.

Now it's: we don't need no steenkin constitution

14 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:37 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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It won’t lead to civil war because we are too gutless.


15 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:53 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: FreedomStar3028

End of freedom of religion in America.

Arrests and persecution ahead?


16 posted on 06/26/2015 9:39:35 AM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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If Roe v. Wade didn’t lead to civil war or even civil strife, why would this?


17 posted on 06/26/2015 9:40:22 AM PDT by Johnny Navarone
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To: roses of sharon

It is a good scripture. Unfortunately it seems to be used as more of an excuse not to engage than a comfort after all else failed. It does not remove our civil responsibilities or our obligation to obey God rather than man.


18 posted on 06/26/2015 9:40:27 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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re: "My friends, we are witnessing the end of federalism in our nation. In a single vote, 5 folks basically just told the states to 'stick it.'"

The situation today is reversed. Abe sees the difference.

Abe will explain from "the other side" (he's been through this). The fault is ours.

If you could first know where you are and whither you are tending, you could better judge what to do and how to do it. You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

The question today is either the opponents of statism will arrest the further spread of it and place it on course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become permanent.

Have you no tendency to the latter condition?

Let anyone who doubts carefully contemplate that now almost complete legal combination — piece of machinery, so to speak — compounded of the Republican Party hierarchy and the ruling class statism's chief architects.


19 posted on 06/26/2015 9:41:12 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Interesting note - he alludes to being "buyable" as a fifth vote, trading decisions across cases. IOW, he'd join THIS opinion in order to get a fifth vote on a different case.

That's the law for you. "Disciplined legal reasoning" and being willing to go against conviction (trading positions for that fifth vote) are mutually exclusive.

He could have left out the phrase "even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote." It's not necessary to make the point. Maybe this is his way of sharing a bit of inside baseball.

20 posted on 06/26/2015 9:41:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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