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Apple is paying indie labels $0.002 per stream for free trial… BEFORE tax
musicbusinessworldwide.com ^ | June 25, 2015 | Tim Ingham

Posted on 06/25/2015 6:02:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg

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Apple is really paying out the big bucks.
1 posted on 06/25/2015 6:02:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg

Have you ever been to Spin?
Well, I kinda like the music........................


2 posted on 06/25/2015 6:04:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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The ladies are insane there.


3 posted on 06/25/2015 6:07:01 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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And they sure know how to use it!...............


4 posted on 06/25/2015 6:09:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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Doing the math...at $.002 per stream, at one million streams, that’s $2000.

Unless the song is big hit, most won’t get even close to a million streams.


5 posted on 06/25/2015 6:09:19 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Only one solution left.....)
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To: Red Badger
I was there once but I didn't enjoy it...

always dizzy and couldn't get my bearings...

6 posted on 06/25/2015 6:18:01 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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I would like to know how much Apple makes. Without the music provided they would not make anything. Do Apple execs laugh when they come out with such a low low payout? It is like the old days when the tv actor was paid $300 a week for a hit show while the studio rakes in millions.


7 posted on 06/25/2015 6:27:14 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Mad Dawgg

I just put in new bearings in my car’s rear end.
They wouldn’t spin any more......................


8 posted on 06/25/2015 6:27:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: hoagy62; minnesota_bound

This is ludicrous. Apple is essentially getting their product free, and while the ‘trial period’ is only 3 months, many will download everything they can during that period and then walk away after the period is over, leaving the artists without any real revenue...................


9 posted on 06/25/2015 6:30:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: hoagy62
Unless the song is big hit, most won’t get even close to a million streams.

Streams is like the radio. It costs anywhere from 80 cents to $1.50 to download a song, where often streaming is free, or really, really cheap (iTunes radio is free, Pandora costs what $9/month - for how many songs?). If Apple is paying per stream but not charging for it, they're doing the artists a favor.

10 posted on 06/25/2015 6:31:26 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

For most indie music, they are overpaying.


11 posted on 06/25/2015 6:44:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IYAS9YAS

As the article states the first three months (trial period) is free after you will pay 9.95 a month IIRC.


12 posted on 06/25/2015 6:46:28 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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So... the question I have is... how much do the indies normally get for the play of their music via Apple ?


13 posted on 06/25/2015 6:55:08 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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As the article states the first three months (trial period) is free after you will pay 9.95 a month

And if it's anything like cable TV pricing, after a year it will go up to 19.95 a month .

14 posted on 06/25/2015 6:57:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
As the article states the first three months (trial period) is free after you will pay 9.95 a month IIRC.

Okay, let's break that down. Say you get folks who stream 2 hours/day. Average song is 5 minutes. 120/5 is 24. So 24 songs a day for a total of 720 songs/month. Cost per song is $0.0138 for the consumer. Now get someone who streams 4 hours a day, cost per song drops to $0.0069. Someone who streams 8 hours a day pays only $0.00345/song. So, yeah, Apple is making bank on these guys, even when someone is streaming 8 hours/day. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

15 posted on 06/25/2015 7:01:49 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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$0.002 per stream

So that's 1/5 of a cent. Five streams and you get a whole penny, before taxes.

16 posted on 06/25/2015 7:05:12 AM PDT by Blennos
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The old Record Company Rape was better. At least they would pay to have your teeth fixed.

Thanks downloaders, enjoy your new music industry where only one of Rod Stewart’s 47 illegitimate kids gets a break.


17 posted on 06/25/2015 7:08:08 AM PDT by The Toll
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I've received just about enough revenue for streaming music to buy a Snickers® candy bar.
18 posted on 06/25/2015 7:13:58 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: The Toll
I keep hearing how much Cash Apple has on hand (The Applebots crow about this endlessly)

They are said to be worth of a half TRILLION dollars.

And they pay out $0.002 per stream for free trial… BEFORE tax

Unbelievable....

19 posted on 06/25/2015 7:14:12 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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Music fans have no idea how the industry works. For example do you think they know how much it costs to have your act featured on a late night TV show? They truly live in a universe of horse_****. It’s $60,000! That’s it. That’s all there is to it. You want your band to be on late night TV? It’s 60K cash under the table. Straight up. No fans, no hits, not likes on Facebook, none of that. It’s 60K. That’s all!

My wife’s first job out of college was sitting at a desk in Rockafeller Center writing Astro-Turfed BIO’s for one of the Major Record companies. I was on tour with one of my bands and we’re on the phone together laughing because she was using my “road stories” to write up FAKE histories for some kid whose Father was the CEO for a “ticket selling service”.

It’s all a big fraud. All of it.


20 posted on 06/25/2015 7:35:08 AM PDT by The Toll
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