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The Real Reason GOP Talking Heads are Attacking Trump (great article!)
conservativereview.com ^ | 6/18/15 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 06/18/2015 4:34:22 PM PDT by cotton1706

Well. This is telling.

One of the striking aspects of Donald Trump’s announcement that he is running for president is the vehemence of his critics – on the conservative side.

The normally even-keeled Dana Perino almost foamed on the set of Fox News’ “The Five” as she fumed about Trump’s line that he would not only build a wall that only he could build along the Mexican border but he would make the Mexicans pay for it. Over at National Review the normally astute Kevin Williamson went off not just the deep end but the very, very deep end in a column calling Trump – no kidding – a “Witless Ape.” In which it seems that Trump’s style (“the worst taste since Caligula”) and wife (a “ plastic-surgery-disaster wife”) were as offensive as Trump himself, the latter “a reality-television grotesque…grunting like a baboon about our country’s ‘brand’ and his own vast wealth.”

Let’s start with Williamson, whose piece should perhaps be retitled “Witless Writer Jumps the Shark.”

Having worked his way through a spray of bile unworthy of National Review not to mention the normally serious Williamson himself, there was a Williamson presentation of bankruptcy that was either willfully ignorant or maybe just blissfully so. Not to mention, Williamson revealed himself as historically clueless on the subject of presidents and bankruptcy.

And, oh yes. Let’s not forget the panel that appeared on Bret Baier’s “Special Report” the evening of Trump’s announcement. In which “conservatives” George Will and Charles Krauthammer joined liberal Mara Liasson in dissing Trump to substitute host Doug McKelway.

Why would conservative commentators pile on America’s arguably most famous capitalist? And not just pile on, either. This was, both individually in some cases and certainly collectively a full-blown temper tantrum worthy of a two-year old.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; astroturf; donaldtrump; elections; jeffreylord; trump2016
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To: dinodino
“What time frame is, “Originally?” Did you see Reagan’s speech in support of Goldwater? If not, you should watch it. That was forty years before his Presidency.”

Pal, I'm 74 and I am a life-long Californian and a Conservative Republican who worked with Ronald Reagan when he was governor here. I was merely trying to point out that people change their philosophies over time including maybe Donald Trump. BTW, my wife was a “Goldwater Girl” at the convention in 1964, so you needn't preach to me about RR. He will forever be the “gold standard” by which all presidencies past and future should be measured. When I was in a room with him, you could feel his greatness. When I see the $hit that tries to pass for politicians it makes me want to cry!

41 posted on 06/18/2015 5:15:02 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Nervous Tick

“I rather enjoyed Kevin Williamson’s kneecapping of The Donald.”

Did you, by any chance, read the article? He kneecapped Williamson.


42 posted on 06/18/2015 5:15:06 PM PDT by odawg
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To: lodi90

Trump most likely could not avoid damage by those same grenades. Even if he can, he is vulnerable enough on his own political statements. Which candidate will invite Oprah or Clinton to the audience?


43 posted on 06/18/2015 5:15:41 PM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: odawg

LOL, your reasoning is bizarre, he was stable enough to become a strange, 69 year old real estate mogul/TV celebrity, self promoter, so he is stable enough to be President?

His favorite president is Clinton’s husband, and he wants Oprah Winfrey as your vice president, and the next president to follow him.


44 posted on 06/18/2015 5:18:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: vette6387

No preaching, and I wish I could have been at that convention. My point is that RR had some four decades’ worth of publicly-stated conservatism by the time he was elected. Trump has nothing of the sort. Trump feels like a weathervane to me.


45 posted on 06/18/2015 5:18:17 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: ansel12

He flat out said it is not for her. He’s pandering votes by being friendly to all sides but I don’t think he’ll act that way in office.

He’s playing the game.


46 posted on 06/18/2015 5:18:35 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Din Maker

“Well, to start with, Dana Perino made a complete ass out of herself on “The Five” yesterday attacking co-host Eric Bolling, who was semi complimentary to Trump. “

And later on O’Gasbag, she was basically “spinning” by repeatedly saying that 67% of Republicans don’t like Trump. Both she and Rove need to be off of Fox. She’s a Bush Cool Aid drinker.


47 posted on 06/18/2015 5:19:08 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: bboop

Didn’t he just mention that he like Bill Clinton as a President?


48 posted on 06/18/2015 5:20:40 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: vette6387

Well pal, read post 40.

Trump’s favorite modern president, is Hillary’s husband, and he wants Oprah of the TV show, to be his vice president.

Oh, and in 2004, he was still admitting to being a democrat politically.

How you drag Reagan into the Trump cesspool, is baffling.


49 posted on 06/18/2015 5:21:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: cotton1706

Its a very insightful article, a shame most of what passes for discussion here is shallow and irrelevant.

It is Trumps status as a political outsider that will make him uniquely attractive to many. That he is truly his own man and will not play by traditional rules will continue to drive the talking heads bonkers.


50 posted on 06/18/2015 5:25:04 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Beowulf9

“I think it’s true that many of those running do not have a chance to win. What is their purpose of running when that is so obvious?”

My bet is that they are all on the Bush payroll working to split the vote up so El Senor Boooshie get’s the nomination. Why else to you have a worthless turd like Santorum and Graham running ( along with probably six others I won’t mention because the amen chorus here would amp up).


51 posted on 06/18/2015 5:25:48 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Beowulf9
He flat out said it is not for her. He’s pandering votes by being friendly to all sides but I don’t think he’ll act that way in office.

In his previous presidential push, he said that Oprah, WOULD ALWAYS BE HIS FIRST CHOICE, that was in 1999.

Favorite recent president??? Bill Clinton.

52 posted on 06/18/2015 5:27:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: ansel12

Sure, NBC was willing to pay fifty million dollars to a “strange” real estate mogul. Exactly what kind of indicators of stability have you developed that you can apply from a distance and without any knowledge of the person? And you say my reasoning is bizarre. The comment about Oprah was a joke.


53 posted on 06/18/2015 5:27:35 PM PDT by odawg
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To: vette6387

I read Jeb is worth 9 million, Trump 90 Billion. Trump could be a wild card doing anything. I’m waiting to see how it plays out.


54 posted on 06/18/2015 5:27:44 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: ansel12

Ansell, you’re off your meds again. Go impugn someone else’s motives, I don’t buy your bluster!


55 posted on 06/18/2015 5:28:15 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

I just filled you in on Reagan’s history with post 40, and the absurdity of your comparing him to the 69 year old Trump in 2015.

Evidently you are determined to lie, steal or borrow in trying to push the Bill Clinton loving democrat.

You can at least lay off the silly comparison’s to Reagan.


56 posted on 06/18/2015 5:32:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: SoConPubbie

Newsflash and I agree with most of what you say however unlike the greasy politicians Trump doesn’t need a dime of support from anyone.


57 posted on 06/18/2015 5:33:51 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: MeganC
Trump is an easy target. He’s the ‘short bus’ candidate and the mean kids are going to dogpile him because there’s no downside to being mean to Trump.

Not a Trump supporter and I don't believe for a second he's "in it to win it" .... having said that, there are pieces of Trumps message that will resonate with some portion of voting electorate, and he may have pieces of his message that resonate with LARGE portions of the voting electorate.

How many posts have you read here on FR over the last few years (or even DECADE) about securing the border with Mexico and building a wall?

That message is certainly going to resonate with people.

Trump's statements about China are also going to resonate with many blue-collar workers, especially those in the manufacturing sector who've seen their jobs go away or wages stagnate due to the amount of manufacturing that's moved to China.

Trump's going to have his supporters even here on FR. I don't seriously believe Trump's going to end up with the nomination, or run as an Independent. I think he's mouthing off and looking to see who's going to pick up the gauntlet(s) he's throwing down.

Just my .02.....

58 posted on 06/18/2015 5:33:51 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: odawg

>> He kneecapped Williamson.

He certainly tried. He beat to death the bankruptcy point. Not much other substance to his hyperventilating though. I don’t deny Williamson foamed at the mouth a little, but this boy foamed, in response, like a whole pack of rabid dogs. Pot kettle black doesn’t get you style points.

Kevin Williamson is in a different class. He’s a more skilled writer than this joker could ever hope to be.


59 posted on 06/18/2015 5:35:06 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: odawg
Sure, NBC was willing to pay fifty million dollars to a “strange” real estate mogul.

Are you kidding? I don't know what you are talking about, but NBC would pay anyone, for all kinds of things.

Do you think that making lot's of money, makes democrat rich people ready to be president, in their 70s?

60 posted on 06/18/2015 5:35:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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