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The American dream is dead, but I will bring it back: Donald Trump announces for President
Daily Mail ^ | 16 Jun 15 | Spargo & Corcoran

Posted on 06/16/2015 9:16:16 AM PDT by xzins

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To: 1010RD
What the US needs is an awakening. If Trump says the correct things and shakes things up, that's good. If he helps hillary beat Jeb, so what? If that's the "choice", we ve lost before the election.

NO MORE being voting fodder for the global elite!

161 posted on 06/16/2015 10:54:36 AM PDT by grania
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To: vette6387
Trump is far more Populist than any of the announced conservative candidates. He is more likely to take votes from Jeb than from them, because he's not a conservative ideolog.

Trump styles himself as an anti-establishment candidate. His populist appeal with take some deluded votes away from conservative alternatives to Bush in the race. So in the end his candidacy, like those of other vanity candidates like Carson and Fiorina, will only help Bush.

I get it that you don't like Trump, but at least be honest about him, his message is right, you just don't happen to like the messenger.

Trump's message isn't right because he doesn't really have a message. He's done a 180 degree about-face on just about every single issue over the years: from pro-gun control to against it, from pro-abortion to against it, from Democrat donor to Republican donor. Will those who like him for what he's saying now still like Trump when the winds blow the other way, and there's more fame and controversy to stir up by posing as a liberal again instead of as a conservative?

162 posted on 06/16/2015 10:54:54 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: caww

Where did you find that picture of me? LOL


163 posted on 06/16/2015 10:55:18 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: xzins

While I can think of reasons not to vote for him, if he could convince me he really would bring millions of middle class good paying jobs back to America I would support him. None of the others are going to do anything to bring jobs back.


164 posted on 06/16/2015 10:56:08 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Beowulf9

Me too I am Incapable of imagining anything worse than a Hillary presidency, I suppose somehow that makes me a racist even though I am white and she appears to be also. I wonder sometimes though if she may be a “gray” or a demon.


165 posted on 06/16/2015 10:57:12 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: 1010RD
If he were serious he would have seen what FReepers have seen for 20+ years. He would have funded and campaigned with candidates who believe in the rhetoric he’s spewing today. But he didn’t.

He’s here to hold the mushy TEA Party voters, stop a real conservative from threatening Jeb or Hillary and then drop out a la Perot. That he’s being taken seriously is evidence of the decline.

Right on target. As I said, the people who take him seriously are just grasping at straws - any straws - that offer an alternative to the GOP establishment. I can understand the dreams of a Great White Hope. Donald isn't it. He's in it for the publicity, for a tax write-off, and probably to sink the viable conservative candidates who stand a chance of actually beating Jebbie in the primaries.

166 posted on 06/16/2015 10:57:40 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: xzins
"No, he lied about the constitution and treaties by supporting Corker’s Iran bill."

Your contention is absolutely correct.

There is no doubt that bill bypassed the Treaty Clause...even for folks who quibble about trade deals not being "treaty".

Ted Cruz is NOT so stupid as to believe the Iran deal does not trigger Article II, Section II.

167 posted on 06/16/2015 10:57:44 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: vette6387
Trump is a fraud. He will disappoint you like Perot. How national elections work is via money. If you have a lot of money, like Jeb Bush, but are not very popular with the populist wing of the TEA Party what would you do?

Get a guy who hasn't done diddly to support TEA Party candidates in NY, let alone the country at any level, to run as a populist. Pay him later, just like the Clinton's did with Perot via NAFTA.

Trump's pushing your buttons as if it were an ad campaign. He's a master marketer and your primary vote is his goal, but not to win himself. Capisce?

I Won't Get Fooled Again

Listen to all the lyrics.

168 posted on 06/16/2015 10:58:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: vette6387; xzins; wagglebee
You are the reason we have DemoRATs in office. I believe in the sanctity of life, but I would not withhold support on that issue alone. Maybe you can “stay home” again that that’ll show em!

If electing a national savior is so important to you that you would be willing to vote for a pro abortion president, then maybe you should just cheat and vote several times. Democrats do that. That is how they win elections.

169 posted on 06/16/2015 11:00:34 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: xzins

LOL....he’s liable to do anything.


170 posted on 06/16/2015 11:01:18 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: vette6387
...." people vote on social issues that won’t mean squat if we don’t have a country"....

Exactly....it's all priority

Let these creeps set the agenda.....or....

recognize the invasion and take care of it

Protesting IN America


171 posted on 06/16/2015 11:02:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: Vendome

At the dog kennel...LOLOL


172 posted on 06/16/2015 11:04:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: Will88

My dad worked in the textile industry for his uncle, whomanaged a knitting mill that moved from NYC to escape from the union. I worked in the warehouse during my vacations from school, and I worked in others. So what?

The sewing is tedious, low paying labor, and welfare is more profitable, and the knitting machines were noisy, and boring to operate.


173 posted on 06/16/2015 11:05:16 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: grania

That awakening is already happening. We don’t need Trump and he’s actually working for the establishment and status quo.

The people who are going to forward the awakening are you and I. There isn’t a GWH - Great White Hope. We don’t need another Jesus, but we do need a bunch of active disciples willing to work hard to win.

We need an Army of Davids. See the book..


174 posted on 06/16/2015 11:05:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Here’s his history:

http://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/donald_trump.asp

2012 appears to be when he first seriously considered running...and quit donating to Rats.


175 posted on 06/16/2015 11:07:11 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: caww

Hey, I guess you collared me but, thise records were suppose to be sealed.

I did some stoopet things during my puppy love years and now live a dogs life....

Kinda gives me paws though.

I was handsome in that pic....


176 posted on 06/16/2015 11:08:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 1010RD
"Don’t throw that away on a fake like Trump."

I would take Trump any day over that huckster Cruz.

177 posted on 06/16/2015 11:09:26 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: vette6387; P-Marlowe

Life is not an issue, vette.

Life is a right. There is not voting it up or down. God already voted.


178 posted on 06/16/2015 11:09:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

Somebody wake me up when a conservative announces he’s in the race.


179 posted on 06/16/2015 11:10:07 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: showme_the_Glory

I’m the same way, we have established what we are, now it is just a matter of dickering over price. I will sell out for less than nine billion but I won’t do it for a bottle of Thunderbird. Somewhere in between lies the magic number. Somehow I don’t expect the Donald to call with an offer.


180 posted on 06/16/2015 11:10:38 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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