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Top Catholic Archbishop: Americans ‘Increasingly Subject to a Soft Despotism’
CNS ^ | June 4, 2015 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 06/05/2015 1:08:19 PM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 06/05/2015 1:08:19 PM PDT by xzins
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The Grahams (Baptists) and the Catholics are saying these things. My Methodists are in public on the side of the tyranny.

I am a Catholic.

I am a Baptist.

I am on the side of persecuted Christians.


2 posted on 06/05/2015 1:08:53 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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And in the same breath they support the Welfare State and Open Borders. What the Catholic Church has never understood is that a huge, cradle-to-grave Welfare State with no concept of citizenship always results in despotism.


3 posted on 06/05/2015 1:11:18 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: xzins

I appreciate his comments.

However, as a Catholic, I take issue with the Church’s soft position on illegal immigration.


4 posted on 06/05/2015 1:11:24 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; xzins

Same here, Trapped Behind Enemy Lines.


5 posted on 06/05/2015 1:14:38 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: xzins

Wonderful, poignant speech.

Would have been a whole lot more helpful if delivered in September, 2012.


6 posted on 06/05/2015 1:17:15 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Well...

SOME are, anyway.

And I don’t consider them “Americans”; they’re liberals.

Mutually exclusive terms.


7 posted on 06/05/2015 1:19:47 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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“...Would have been a whole lot more helpful if delivered in September, 2012....”

Would have been a whole lot more helpful if every Church preached it every Sunday.

But nope.


8 posted on 06/05/2015 1:21:19 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: xzins

dictatorships or police states like we have now (and increasingly so!)... do not tend to dissipate into benign, kindly, benevolant do-good governments

ask any German, Russian, Cuban, Chinese, etc etc etc etc and etc

we are in deeeeeep doooooooo doooooooo, and sinking fast


9 posted on 06/05/2015 1:21:39 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh.")
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Catholic ping!


10 posted on 06/05/2015 1:31:01 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; onyx

I would prefer they base their support for illegal aliens in terms of biblical theology. That way I’d know they had not thoroughly thought through the biblical support for aliens. At least it would be a doctrinal difference. However, almost always it’s presented in political terms, and there is no rational political justification.

The bible says we are to be humane to aliens. It says to remember God’s people have often been strangers and pilgrims. All that is true.

That does not, however, mean a humane nation cannot humanely send them back to their home nation. My exception would be legitimate refugees in fear of death on return to their home country.....Syrian and Iraqi CHRISTIANS, for example.


11 posted on 06/05/2015 1:32:04 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I appreciate his comments. However, as a Catholic, I take issue with the Church’s soft position on illegal immigration.

As a non-Catholic, I take issue with his complaints about "soft despotism" while the USCCB continues to advocate for policies that actively encourage it.

12 posted on 06/05/2015 1:36:49 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: xzins

Still waiting to hear from “black Christians” about this. Oh, that’s right...they are too busy going for their 30 pieces of silver from the democrats.


13 posted on 06/05/2015 1:39:26 PM PDT by eekitsagreek
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The catholics have had a number of lawsuits go forward based on religious intolerance on the part of the government. I cannot recall any from the reformed.


14 posted on 06/05/2015 1:44:13 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Archbishop Thomas Wenski of Miami, ...American Christians “are being increasingly subject to a soft despotism.”

Shout it, write it, sing it, cite it! I hope the good Archbishop understands that it will take men on his station getting in front and in center, subjecting themselves to "hard despotism", for this message to ring true. The Christian leaders must stand up and boldly declare their beliefs.

15 posted on 06/05/2015 2:16:00 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: xzins

You’re right.
God bless you, dearest xzins.


16 posted on 06/05/2015 2:16:31 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Unfortunately, Pope Francis is promoting a hard despotism anti-Christian government Cuban style. Then archbishop Bergoglio wrote after his visit to Cuba with Pope John Paul II in 1998 that the Cuban Stalinist regime “was the closest to the Catholic social doctrine.” Once as Pope, Francis, reinforced his admiration for el Che and the Castro tyrants by concocting with president Obama an accord to keep a float and to finance the regime using taxpayers’ money. Soon after his election, Pope Francis blessed the Marxist liberation theology that was proscribed by S.S. John Paul II and Benedict XVI for the perversion of the Gospel by using the main tenets of the Marxist ideology, an action that is in blatant disregard of the long established Magisterium of the Church condemning socialism as intrinsically evil from late 19th century by Leo XIII to the papacy of Benedict XVI
17 posted on 06/05/2015 2:23:45 PM PDT by Dqban22
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“are being increasingly subject to a soft despotism.””

In other words, they wont walk you to the edge of a pit and shoot you in the neck. They are more refined today. They will cause you to lose your job, your livelihood, your happiness, etc. They will sue you, bankrupt you, expose sealed court records, attack your pizza restaurant or floral shop, etc.

Then you are, in poverty, with family and friends disgusted by you, having lost your worldly means of coping. No, they don’t use a 32 anymore.
Now its a soft tyranny. Doesn’t it feel soft?


18 posted on 06/05/2015 2:26:49 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: onyx

I am, however, fascinated that this truthful message by a Catholic Bishop is being framed in terms of a person’s rejection of the Catholic Church.

The problem inevitably is some bugaboo in the minds of people, some chew toy that they just can’t stop gnawing long enough to look at what the message actually is. Our ‘troll’ last night had a similar problem in a different area. He simply couldn’t see past his chew toy...a candidate he wanted to insure was rejected.

The truth here that is said extremely well by this bishop is that we are being subjected to persecution by our government when we allow our faith to invade our lives outside the walls of our church building.

That truth has nothing to do with being Catholic.

But rather than admit the truth of the message, the polarized must insure that the chew toy gets attacked.


19 posted on 06/05/2015 2:32:02 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Excellent post, DesertRhino.

Soft? It makes me feel very uncomfortable. I’m certain that a Scotus ruling in favor of homosexual, unnatural marriage will open the floodgates of legal persecution with penalties included. That is no longer ‘soft’. It isn’t death, but imprisonment and impoverishment are hard punishments.


20 posted on 06/05/2015 2:34:12 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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