Posted on 06/03/2015 6:45:09 AM PDT by SJackson
Leading Jewish human rights group the Simon Wiesenthal Center (SWC) expressed shock on Monday over a call by a Bavarian parliament member to exclude German Muslims and other immigrant students from visiting concentration camps as part of Holocaust educational programs.
“There are a lot of children from Muslim families who do not have a connection to our past,” said Christian Society Union (CSU) MP Klaus Steiner, justifying the exclusion in a speech to the Bavarian Parliament. “We have to approach this topic carefully with these children.”
SWC Director for International Relations, Dr. Shimon Samuels, registered the group’s objections in a letter to German Federal Education Minister Dr. Johanna Wanka saying her Bavarian coalition partner is promoting Holocaust denial with his proposal.
“To hear such language from a mainstream German politician reeks, at best, as Holocaust denial,” he wrote, according to a statement, “and, far worse, a German endorsement for such radical Islamist and Iranian intents, summed up as, ‘the Holocaust is a lie, let’s make it a reality.'”
SWC noted that Minister Wanka will attend the opening of the G-7 Summit in Bavaria on June 7, where she will announce Germany’s 20 million euro ($218 million) investment and five-year plan to create centers of Islamic theology at four universities: Tubingen, Frankfurt/Giessen, Munster/Osnabruck and Nurenberg/Erlengen. Samuels said the latter two establishments in Bavaria have a reportedly “checkered Nazi history.” He charged that the Islamic education programs, mixed with Steiner’s proposal, suggest a “recipe for Jihadism.”
“At a time of increasingly rampant antisemitism and even antisemitic terrorism across Europe, the Steiner Bavarian plan, together with your generous Federal Islamic education program seems a recipe for Jihadism, ISIS recruitment and incitement to Jew-hatred, to be inevitably followed by attacks on other traditional Nazi victims: Roma, gays, women and disabled,” he wrote.
SWC called on Minister Wanka to “unequivocally reject” Steiner’s initiative and ensure that lesson plans by Muslim instructors include an “adequate Holocaust model, such as a mandatory visit to the Yad Vashem memorial museum in Jerusalem.”
The Jewish group also drew attention to the Ministry’s website explaining that it is part of its integration policy to “train religious educators and specialized religious scholars … who will go on to work in mosques.” Muslims make up the third largest religious group in Germany numbering 4 million people, following Catholics and Protestants, according to the website.
“By suppressing the concentration camp visit for young Muslims, Germany may evoke for some, iconized memories of the 1930’s Fuhrer-Mufti alliance as a paradigm for contemporary Islamism,” Samuels concluded.
If “the Antichrist” is really a single entity and not the many who oppose Christianity while claiming to be Christion as in the letters of John, then it is surely Mohammed and his hellific progeny. What fits better than Islam? even to the conquest of Jerusalem and the proclamation therefrom of the return of the messiah (mahdi) which many, perhaps most will by then worship, at least most in the old civilized world, Moslem Europe and perhaps shariah America. So far, at least, China appears to be exempt and may be the last stronghold of Christianity.
They vote for Democrats pretty consistently here and I would bet they vote consistently for the German version there.
Also, I'm not at all convinced that "antichrist" referred by John in 1st and 2nd John is the same thing as the "Beast" referred to by John in Revelation. We do know that the strange beasts identified in Daniel and again referred to in Revelation represent different civilizations or groups according to the Angel who interpreted the visions to Daniel. I tend to think the Beast is the same and Islam fits the description better than anything.
Actually, the CSU is the primary Conservative party in Bavaria, with most of its support coming from conservative Catholics in the rural area and second tier (ie not Munich) cities. Shocked that this came from a CSU member rather than a Social Democrat or Greenie.
“They vote for Democrats pretty consistently here and I would bet they vote consistently for the German version there.”
As do the goy. In fact, if every Jew in the USA voted Republican the last two elections, Obama would still be president.
Seriously, just stop it. The math is not on your side.
We’re a nothing group, electorally.
We’re not at fault, as a population, any more than the rest of America.
Get a knee, jerk.
What blame the Jews comment? You don’t know me. Why should any group get a pass on stupidity in politics?
Not to mention that American Jews living in Israel were the most pro republican voting block in the last election. Over 85%.
And Jewish Democrat voting patterns are no different than the communities where their concentrations are found. New York, Los Angeles, etc. Wherever large Jewish populations are found the vote Democrat the same as local Catholics.
Then back it up. You acted like Jews in Germany are responsible for the government there in Bavaria.
And get a rotator cuff.
Math is hard for some.
I understand your frustration. I had a slow cousin.
It makes sense if one accepts that knowledge is static, and nobody’s mind should ever be challenged with something they don’t accpet. But in that case, why bother educating anyone? Teach them to read and figure, and shove them into a job.
I acted like nothing, you inferred and wrongly. Get a cervical collar.
Was he hairy and hypersensitive on ‘Jewish’ issues?
Indeed. But Jews vote for Democrats and socialists at a much higher rate than, say, Baptists, or Angl-Irish southerners and midwesterners, or men, or women, for that matter. And they do make a difference in the outcome in places like New York, though their influence is being rapidly eclipsed by blacks and those who control the black vote in NYC.
In NYC, the Jewish population is increasingly Orthodox and vote overwhelmingly Republican.
In fact, they flipped several Congressional elections.
In short, in the one area in the USA they matter as a voting block (other than perhaps hanging-chad Florida), they swing Republican.
“Why are Jews surprised that the liberals they elect hate them?”
1. How do Jewish people vote in Germany?
2. This is what passed for the conservative party in Germany.
“Why should any group get a pass on stupidity in politics?”
Again, you assume the handful of remaining German Jews vote liberal. What do you have to back this up?
Jewish people, by accident of history, are urban in the USA.
They vote like urbanites (excepting Orthodox).
It’s not a “Jewish question.” It’s a urban vs. rural question.
What is perhaps more interesting is how Orthodox buck the universal trend of all peoples, despite being urban.
Yes. They also vote for the Left and the totalitarians on the theory that if they support and love the masters the masters won’t kill them. It is a relic of the German experience, even though it failed in Germany.
That’s just not historically accurate.
The biggest wave of Jewish immigration into the USA was between 1880 and 1924, a period that saw the Jewish population increase from about 250,000 to 4.5 million. With Jewish persecution on the rise during an intensely nationalistic period in European history, the Jews fled Poland, Russia, Romania, Galicia (in the Austro-Hungarian Empire), and other regions of eastern Europe.
But not so much Germany, although that was a part, in that Germany was relatively OK place to be.
By the time the Nazis came to power, national restrictions imposed by the JOHNSON- REED ACT of 1924, which limited annual Jewish immigration to about 10,000 -— resulting in the massive deaths in concentration camps of German Jews, and the tendency for German Jews to go elsewhere (e.g., Palestine).
The German Jews of Israel are an 85% Republican voting block, to the extent there is dual citizenship.
The historical tendency towards communism of the 1880 group is because there were two choices: communists (who pretended to be nice to Jewish people) and nationalists (who openly talked about extermination).
Now, it’s really just an urban thing. Urban Jews are statistically very similar to urban everybody, voting wise.
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