Ethnic minority support for the Tories DOUBLED at the election

Daily Mail ^ | 25th May 2015 | Tom McTague

[the scotsman]

David Cameron more the doubled the Tories' support among ethnic minorities at the election – securing more than a million ethnic votes for the first time in the party's history.

In 2010, when the Tories failed to secure an overall majority, just 16 per cent of black and ethnic minority voters backed the Conservatives.

But in this month's election, Tory support among Britain's ethnic minority communities more than doubled to 33 per cent, according to research published today.

David Cameron - pictured visiting the Sikh's holy Golden Temple in Amritsar, India, in 2013 - more the doubled the Tories' support among ethnic minorities at the election

The surge in black and Asian support for the Tories was driven in large part by middle class Sikh and Hindu families from India.

Almost half of British Indians now support the Conservatives – while just four in 10 support Labour.

Labour, however, has retained the support of other Asian voters – principally Muslim families from Pakistan and Bangladesh.'

[chajin]

Not surprising. It is exactly what will happen in the US. Those segments of the immigrant population that buy into the work ethic will vote increasingly conservative, while those who do not, won’t. It has nothing to do with race or ethnicity and everything to do with personal philosophy.

[entropy12]

I guess the socialists in UK must be running out of other people’s money!

As it happened also in previously communist/socialist countries.
(East Germany & other former Soviet satellite countries). Russia has a flat tax! China has one million new millionaires. India just elected a pro-business leader.

[RginTN]

The Sikh’s and the Hindu’s have assimilated and aren’t trying to turn the UK into a theocracy unlike the muslims.

[kabar]

Not surprising. It is exactly what will happen in the US. Those segments of the immigrant population that buy into the work ethic will vote increasingly conservative, while those who do not, won’t. It has nothing to do with race or ethnicity and everything to do with personal philosophy.

Major BS alert. It has everything to do with race and ethnicity in the US, including immigrants. Obama got 93% of the black vote, 73% of the Asian vote, and 71% of the Hispanic vote. Although not a race or ethnicity, he received 69% of the Jewish vote in 2012 and 78% in 2008. Romney got 59% of the non-Hispanic white vote.

As the demography of the US changes with non-Hisapnic whites being less than 50% by 2043, the Dems will become the permanent majority party. Demography is destiny.

The non-Hispanic white population is projected to peak in 2024, at 199.6 million, up from 197.8 million in 2012. Unlike other race or ethnic groups, however, its population is projected to slowly decrease, falling by nearly 20.6 million from 2024 to 2060.

[chajin]

Most of the ethnic Hispanics and Asians in the US, along with most of the recent immigrants from Africa and India, are going to morph into the American conservative demographic within a generation. “White” here does NOT refer to skin color or ethnicity, but to Protestant work ethic and individual responsibility. We went through this before, when the Irish flooded the shores in the mid1800s, when the Italians and central Europeans flooded the shores at the turn of the last century, and the refugees that flooded around the middle of the last century. We will go through it again.

[Zhang Fei]

“73% of the Asian vote”

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Wasn’t always the case. From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Americans_in_government_and_politics

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In the 1992 presidential election Republican George H. W. Bush received 55% of the Asian-American vote compared to 31% for Democrat Bill Clinton. Asian Americans voted Republican and were the only racial group more conservative than whites in the 1990s, according to surveys.[34] The Asian American vote has slowly shifted since then with Democrat John Kerry winning 56% of the Asian American vote in the 2004 U.S. Presidential Election; Chinese and Indian Americans were more likely to support John Kerry; whereas Vietnamese and Filipino Americans supported George Bush.[37] The Japanese leaned towards Kerry, while the Koreans leaned towards Bush.[37] Democrat Barack Obama won 62% of the Asian American vote in the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election,[38] with the margin increasing during the 2012 United States presidential elections, where Asian American voters voted to re-elect Democrat Barack Obama by 73%.[39]

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I don’t think it’s a monolithic thing either. My SWAG? Filipinos, Koreans and Vietnamese support the GOP because it’s hawkish on China. Chinese support the Dems because it’s dovish on China. Indians support the Dems because it is socialist, despite the failure of socialism in India, because it’s drilled into them that socialism failed there because colonialism. As all of them assimilate, I expect that they will drift back towards the GOP because racial quotas set up by the Dems systematically discriminate against them. (If the Dems systematically discriminated against whites, they’d be wiped out at the polls, so Asians are an easy target. Not to mention that the Democratic leadership is mostly white, so they’d be discriminating against their friends and relatives, if they went after whites). In addition, unlike Jews, Asians have no noblesse oblige-related concept of tikkun olam - it’s every man for himself, and Democratic policies really bite into the incomes of the relatively-productive Asian community.

[PapaBear3625]

Almost half of British Indians now support the Conservatives – while just four in 10 support Labour. Labour, however, has retained the support of other Asian voters – principally Muslim families from Pakistan and Bangladesh.'

The Hindu and other non-Muslim immigrants know what will happen if Muslim immigration continues unchecked.

Tories have once chance to fix it. Otherwise UKIP's showing will increase even more.

[FreedomPoster]

I hope you are right. We didn’t have an educational and media establishment teaching people to hate America then.

[Zhang Fei]

Also, as the PLA begins to throw its weight around in Asia, one electoral consequence among non-Chinese Asian voters might be a reversion to Cold War voting patterns - a drift back to the GOP, the party of national security, and sotto voce, anti-imperialism vis-a-vis China.

[kabar]

Most of the ethnic Hispanics and Asians in the US, along with most of the recent immigrants from Africa and India, are going to morph into the American conservative demographic within a generation.

The facts just don't support your assertion. They are not morphing into conservatives. If anything, just the opposite is happening. In the case of Cuban immigrants, their children are less conservative and more liberal. Most immigrants are natural Democrats. They support Big Government and use welfare to a greater extent than the native born.

We have just had the two largest decades of immigration in American history. Since 1990, over 30 million legal permanent immigrants have entered this country. It approximates the population of Canada. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest in 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7 the highest in our history. In 1970 there were 9.7 million foreign born. Today it is 41 million.

During the period 1921 to 1970 we averaged 195,000 legal immigrants a year. Today, we bring in 1.1 million annually along with 640,000 guest workers. This does not include the 300,000 children born to illegal aliens who automatically become citizens thru birthright citizenship. And there are 12 to 20 million illegal aliens here. Milton Freidman said you can't have free immigration simultaneously with the welfare state. We have both. The great waves of immigration in the period 1880 to 1920 came before the establishment of the welfare state.

Comparing the immigration of the Irish, Italians, and central Europe is bogus. First, there was an end to this mass immigration given time for them to assimilate. Second, welfare was not an alternative. Third, they were not provided with affirmative action and minority business set asides giving them preference over the native born. Fourth, today's immigrants are able to maintain contact with their home countries via technology and transportation. Many hold dual citizenship. Finally, the waves of immigration since 1970 have been persistent and increasing. There is no end.

You echo the same pathetic GOPe crapola I have heard from the GOPe in Northern Virginia. They try to explain the continuing losses as just a matter of getting our message out and outreach. They don't get it. VA is now trending solid blue as Fairfax County changes demographically with one-third of the population foreign born. If you want to look at the canary in the coal mine, look at CA to see our future.

[Zhang Fei]

In the case of Cuban immigrants, their children are less conservative and more liberal. Most immigrants are natural Democrats. They support Big Government and use welfare to a greater extent than the native born.

As "Hispanics", Cubans qualify for and benefit from “racial” quotas, despite being generally white. Asians don’t, and are, in fact, disadvantaged by those quotas. Jews aren't generally hurt by racial quotas because they get to swim in the massive "white" pool. Their high IQ's mean they edge out non-Jewish whites. That is why supporting Democrats doesn't really hurt Jews from either a school admissions or a workplace recruitment perspective. Bottom line is that as racial quotas that discriminate against Asians become a bigger sticking point, and the white Democratic leadership champions blacks and Hispanics because they are bigger demographic categories, Asians will swing towards the GOP.

[kabar]

As "Hispanics", Cubans qualify for and benefit from “racial” quotas, despite being generally white. Asians don’t, and are, in fact, disadvantaged by those quotas.

Affirmative action true, but Asians benefit from minority business set asides. For example, the Virginia Department of Minority Business defines a minority individual as “an individual who is a citizen of the United States or a non-citizen who is in full compliance with United States immigration law and who satisfies one or more of the following definitions:”

1. “African American” means a person having origins in any of the original peoples of Africa and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part.

2. “Asian American” means a person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, the Indian subcontinent, or the Pacific Islands, including but not limited to Japan, China, Vietnam, Samoa, Laos, Cambodia, Taiwan, Northern Mariana, the Philippines, a U.S. territory of the Pacific, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or Sri Lanka and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part.

3. “Hispanic American” means a person having origins in any of the Spanish-speaking peoples of Mexico, South or Central America, or the Caribbean Islands or other Spanish or Portuguese cultures and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part.

Bottom line is that as racial quotas that discriminate against Asians become a bigger sticking point, and the white Democratic leadership champions blacks and Hispanics because they are bigger demographic categories, Asians will swing towards the GOP.

Great theory but Obama got 73% of the "Asian vote." How conservative is CAPAC?

Creating a common sense immigration process is a top priority for the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus (CAPAC) and the diverse constituencies that we represent. America has always been a nation of immigrants. Over the last few years, Asians have become the single largest demographic of new immigrants moving to the U.S. and make up the fastest growing racial group in the country. The Members of CAPAC are committed to working towards fair, bipartisan solutions for our broken immigration system. We support comprehensive immigration reform and believe it must:

1. Provide a Roadmap to Citizenship for Aspiring Citizens

Of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants residing in the U.S., 1.4 million identify as being of Asian or Pacific Islander descent. Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders also account for one in ten youth who would qualify for the DREAM Act.

Immigration reform must include a roadmap to permanent residency and citizenship for immigrants who work hard, pay their taxes, and undergo criminal and national security background checks. This is especially true for those who were brought to this country at a young age through no fault of their own, and who are already Americans in every sense except for on paper.

[kabar]

Also, as the PLA begins to throw its weight around in Asia, one electoral consequence among non-Chinese Asian voters might be a reversion to Cold War voting patterns - a drift back to the GOP, the party of national security, and sotto voce, anti-imperialism vis-a-vis China.

Great in theory, but it bears no relevance to reality.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

"Those segments of the immigrant population that buy into the work ethic will vote increasingly conservative"

I work with lots of Asians who are quite conservative in their personal lives, but vote Democrat or are not politically active at all.

They seem to be of two minds. In their personal lives they believe that the choices they make will impact their lives in a significant way so they tend to do the right things in terms of working hard, saving money, bringing up their kids right, etc.

However, they seem to have a more fatalistic view with regard to the larger world. It's a more "whatever" type of view where they believe they can have no impact. So they either don't get involved, or they merely exercise their public responsibility of voting. And they usually seem to vote Democrat (except anti-communist Vietnamese) either because they believe the Republican Party is for Whites only or they have some sort of belief similar to liberal Jews who believe that a vote for the Democrats is a vote for support of the less fortunate.