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What It's Like to Die, According to an ICU Nurse
Aleteia ^ | May 25, 2015

Posted on 05/25/2015 9:30:31 AM PDT by NYer

Palliative and intensive care units at hospitals have a close relationship with death, giving rise to many experiences that defy any rational explanation. Patients who foresee the exact time when they will die; others who seem to decide for themselves the day and the hour, moving their death forward or delaying it; family members' prophetic dreams or presentiments on the part of third parties who, without even knowing that someone has been brought to the hospital or has suffered an accident, are certain that he has died.

Only healthcare professionals who work closely with terminally ill patients know first-hand the extent and variety of these strange experiences. Science has not been able to offer any kind of answer, and so these experiences are usually described as paranormal or supernatural. This label is "too vague for the significance of these experiences," explains the British nurse Penny Sartori, who has worked for nearly 20 years in ICU.

Such a career is sufficiently solid for her to have seen everything, recognize patterns and come up with a hypothesis regarding these phenomena. So much so, that she has a doctorate on these questions, whose principle conclusions were published in the book The Wisdom of Near-Death Experiences (Watkins Publishing).
 
"Visions" shared with family members

Throughout her career, Sartori has interviewed patients who have had near-death experiences (NDE), as well as family members who have had shared death experiences (SDE). The number of these experiences and the repetition of patterns make her discard the hypothesis of chance, or of it being impossible to find a logical reason for this widespread phenomenon.

Her main thesis is centered on the idea that "our brains are separate from our consciousness. In other words, the brain may be channeling what some people call the soul, rather than responsible for creating it." This idea would explain, she adds, why "the soul and enhanced consciousness can be experienced separately from the body," as in NDEs or in Buddhist meditation. The examples that Sartori uses in her book are numerous, but they all tend to coincide in that the patients who have these NDEs are always those who end up embracing death most peacefully and happily, as do family members who have a premonition of the death of their loved ones. Why? According to interviews with these family members, it is because they are convinced that death is only the end of their earthly life.

Independent of whether they are believers, agnostics, or atheists, all of them have a dream or a vision about how their family member leaves this world guided by someone — spouses who have already died, anonymous beings or angels — and with a clear sensation of "peace and love." At first, Sartori says, "it struck me as odd that some family members of the deceased didn't feel sad after foretelling the death of their love one, but when I interviewed them I realized that they were peaceful because they had experienced this sensation of life's transcendence."

Choosing the "most appropriate" moment to die

This is the case of the people who, knowing when they will die, ask to be alone for a few minutes, or die exactly when a family member, who stays at their side constantly, leaves them for just a moment to go to the bathroom. Other equally noteworthy cases are those of people who die just after seeing a family member who has been delayed in arriving to see them because he or she was out of the country, or when all of the paperwork for inheritances and life insurance is finished. "They appear to be waiting for a specific event to take place before they can permit themselves to die," the nurse says.



John Lerma, director of the Tucson Medical Center and specialist in palliative care, has gathered examples very similar to those cited by Sartori, in Into the Light: Real Life Stories about Angelic Visits, Visions of the Afterlife, and Other Pre-Death Experiences (New Page Books). According to his reports, "70 to 80 per cent of his patients waited for their loved ones to leave the room before dying."

Sartori refuses to believe that these experiences are based on hallucinations. "It's not possible for several people to see the same thing and to be capable of describing it exactly the same way if it's really just a distorted perception of reality," she points out. Some theses are based on the famous theories of Prof. Raymond Moody, who coined the concept of near-death experiences at the end of the 1970's.

Her most novel studies center on experiences shared by people who accompany those who are dying. "They open an entirely new path of rational enlightenment regarding the question of life after death, because the people who talk about these experiences are healthy. They are usually seated next to the death bed of a loved one when they are overcome by one of these marvelous and mysterious experiences. And the very fact that these people are not near death rules out the usual explanations. Since their experiences cannot be attributed to brain chemistry disorders, we will have to go beyond this argument," she assures.

New Paths of Investigation

The way some people try to explain this phenomenon based on brain dysfunction, which Sartori calls "cynical," doesn't hold up with the examples of people who enter the hospital with late-stage Alzheimer's disease who suddenly become coherent.

"These are terminally ill patients who are incapable of articulating a single word, who surprisingly begin to talk completely coherently, interacting with people who are not in the room and who are often deceased family members," the author explains. Besides, she adds, "it often happens that after this experience they stop being agitated and end up dying with a smile on their face, usually one or two days later."

The argument that these visions are drug-induced isn't accepted by the author either because, she says, hallucinations due to medication "cause anxiety, the exact opposite of what these patients feel. “In her book, the author defends the idea that these kinds of experiences can be key for demonstrating the existence of life after death and that they should at least open a new direction of research (like some that are based on quantum physics) for scientific studies. She is definitely convinced that "death is not as fearful as we imagine."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: death; dying; faithandphilosophy; nde; neardeathexperiences; sde
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1 posted on 05/25/2015 9:30:31 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 05/25/2015 9:30:52 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer
Only healthcare professionals who work closely with terminally ill patients know first-hand the extent and variety of these strange experiences.

The cliche that "healthcare professionals think they're omniscient" seems to be rooted in reality.

3 posted on 05/25/2015 9:33:07 AM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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To: NYer

ping for later


4 posted on 05/25/2015 9:33:36 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: NYer

Having lived thru the passing of my beloved. I think that it might be easier on those who pass than those who are left.


5 posted on 05/25/2015 9:34:19 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Ted Cruz for President ... all others are cheap imitations)
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To: NYer

Oh good! Then she can tell us if God really exists.


6 posted on 05/25/2015 9:34:36 AM PDT by uncitizen (The GOPE is bruisin' for a Cruz'n)
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To: NYer

It’s what comes after dying that you have to be prepared for.


7 posted on 05/25/2015 9:35:07 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: NYer

Mark


8 posted on 05/25/2015 9:37:55 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: NYer

Good post. Makes me want to read the book. I have deaths ahead of me soon and I’d like to see some of this happen for my beloved parents who both have Alzheimer’s.


9 posted on 05/25/2015 9:38:28 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: NYer

It will be 18 years ago on Tuesday that my mom left us - and left me and the hospice nurse on duty and the lady who helped with mom for years with an incredible GIFT!

Mom was a stroke patient for about 2 years - she was at home as that was my parents’ decision. All but 2 of the 7 of us kids were around during the weekend; it was Tuesday and I stopped by after taking my kids to school to see if I should really go to work that day. I wasn’t in the room 3 minutes - greeting the two ladies there - when Mom, who had not made a sound in days, all of a sudden made a sound of utter joy and let out her last breath.

We have no doubt she is in heaven with our Lord.


10 posted on 05/25/2015 9:40:44 AM PDT by RebelTXRose (God bless the USA!)
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To: NYer
My mother was on hospice for many months before finally dying peacefully at 94. As her primary caregiver, I came to know the hospice workers and nurses very well.

They have many stories to tell about this subject.

As you might expect, all the hospice workers were all quite devout.

11 posted on 05/25/2015 9:41:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: exit82

having suffered a brain injury along with noticeable effects on personality, I think the brain is more than just a conduit. However I do believe in a soul.


12 posted on 05/25/2015 9:42:27 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: NYer

A study like this was done many years ago:

http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Erlendur_Haraldsson/publication/232537867_Deathbed_observations_by_physicians_and_nurses_A_cross-cultural_survey/links/5489973b0cf268d28f0b0319.pdf


13 posted on 05/25/2015 9:42:55 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: clamper1797

My sister basically informed my mom that it was time to go. And she went.


14 posted on 05/25/2015 9:44:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NYer

I read a story last week about the possibility of “uploading” one’s brain into a computer in the future, with the idea that it would keep the person “alive”. I thought that sounded really wrong, but couldn’t articulate why.

Here it is: “our brains are separate from our consciousness. In other words, the brain may be channeling what some people call the soul, rather than responsible for creating it.”


15 posted on 05/25/2015 9:46:14 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: RebelTXRose
Along those same lines, a good friend told me a story of the death of her brother.

The family were gathered around his bed waiting for him to pass. He would lose consciousness for a few minutes and his breathing would become very shallow.

But then, just when he had almost stopped breathing, he would become conscious again and exclaim "it's wonderful...beyond anything you can imagine."

He did this 3 or 4 times before he passed.

16 posted on 05/25/2015 9:46:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: exit82

There has been NDE’s that have taken place that do help.


17 posted on 05/25/2015 9:49:19 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: clamper1797
Having lived thru the passing of my beloved. I think that it might be easier on those who pass than those who are left.

Same here and I don't want to wait a long time to see her again.

18 posted on 05/25/2015 9:51:05 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: saminfl

I lost my youngest child about 5 years ago, and while I have a “good life” it seems to be just a waiting period until I can see him again.


19 posted on 05/25/2015 10:07:14 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: NYer
My Dad passed in 2007 from cancer at age 81. I had moved in with him a few weeks before but wasn't much help with a broken shoulder and my arm in a sling, but we managed. He was a huge man and didn't shrivel up like most since he had no chemotherapy as per his wishes.
He kept trying to apologize for being a bother - that's the kind of man he was. One night he said, "I'm gonna go" and he did right then - his last word was my mother's name who had died 13 years before.
20 posted on 05/25/2015 10:11:16 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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