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Are gays ‘born that way’? Most Americans now say yes, but science says no
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/20/15 | Fr. Mark Hodges

Posted on 05/21/2015 6:54:52 AM PDT by wagglebee

PRINCETON, NJ, May 20, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- For the first time, a majority of Americans say that homosexuals are "born that way."

According to the latest Gallup poll, 51 percent of Americans say that people are born gay or lesbian, while only 30 percent say outside factors such as upbringing and environment determine sexual orientation.

However, science would not bear that out. No fewer than eight major studies from around the world have found homosexuality is not a genetic condition.

Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council says that these numerous, rigorous studies of identical twins have now made it impossible to argue that there is a "gay gene." If homosexuality were inborn and predetermined, then when one identical twin is homosexual, the other should be, as well.

Yet one study from Yale and Columbia Universities found homosexuality common to only 6.7 percent of male identical twins and 5.3 percent of female identical twins.

The low rate of common homosexuality in identical twins – around six percent – is easily explained by nurture, not nature.

Researchers Peter Bearman and Hannah Brueckner concluded that environment was the determining factor. They rejected outright that "genetic influence independent of social context" as the reason for homosexuality. "(O)ur results support the hypothesis that less gendered socialization in early childhood and preadolescence shapes subsequent same-sex romantic preferences."

"Less gendered socialization" means, a boy was without a positive father figure, or a girl was without a positive mother figure.

In light of the evidence, Sprigg said simply, "No one is born gay."

Psychiatrists William Byne and Bruce Parsons summarize the science: "Critical review shows the evidence favoring a biologic theory to be lacking. ... In fact, the current trend may be to underrate the explanatory power of extant psychosocial models." In other words, homosexuality is a psychological malady, not something people are born with.

Some homosexuals openly admit that their lifestyle is a choice. Lindsay Miller, who describes herself as a "queer woman," complained in The Atlantic monthly, "I get frustrated with the veiled condescension of straight people who believe that queers 'can't help it,' and thus should be treated with tolerance and pity.”

“I was not born this way,” she wrote. “The life I have now is not something I ended up with because I had no other options. Make no mistake – it's a life I chose.”

"It's time to send the 'born that way' myth to the graveyard of misbegotten ideas, buried in the plot next to the myth that the sun revolves around the earth,” Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association has written.

And yet, the myth continues to gain believers, even among conservatives. According to the new Gallup poll, Republicans are divided on whether Americans are born homosexual (40 percent) or whether same-sex orientation is determined by environmental factors (36 percent).

In previous polls, a majority of Republicans have said homosexuality is not innate. Now, according to this poll, they are equally likely to view sexual orientation as inherent, rather than a choice or a consequence of how people were raised. In all, 62 percent of Democrats believe homosexuals were born that way.

The issue affects Republican politicians who, like all politicians, base their public statements on the polls. Presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson recently apologized for merely suggesting people choose to be gay or lesbian. Sen. Marco Rubio has said that, while he does not support same-sex "marriage," he believes that people are born gay or lesbian.

Fischer says our society and particularly our presidential candidates should make policy based on medical and scientific reality, not polls. "If homosexual behavior is a choice, then our public policy can freely be shaped by an honest look at whether this behavioral choice is healthy and should be encouraged, or unhealthy and dangerous and consequently discouraged," he wrote.

There is no debate over the health threats posed by engaging in the homosexual lifestyle. Fischer notes that the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association admits homosexuals are at greater risk of AIDS, substance and alcohol abuse, depression and anxiety, hepatitis, STDs, and prostate and colon cancer.

"This is not behavior that any rational society should condone, endorse, subsidize, reward, promote or sanction in domestic policy or in the marketplace,” Fischer wrote. “It's a choice, and a bad one at that."

The Gallup poll, taken May 6-10, also reports a new record high number of Americans support same-sex "marriage."

The poll is based on telephone interviews with a random sample of 1,024 adults, aged 18 and older, living in the United States. The organization says its margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95 percent confidence level.


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There is no debate over the health threats posed by engaging in the homosexual lifestyle. Fischer note that the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association admits homosexuals are at greater risk of AIDS, substance and alcohol abuse, depression and anxiety, hepatitis, STDs, and prostate and colon cancer.

"This is not behavior that any rational society should condone, endorse, subsidize, reward, promote or sanction in domestic policy or in the marketplace,” Fischer wrote. “It's a choice, and a bad one at that."

And this is something that the left has chosen to completely ignore in their efforts to "normalize" sodomy.

1 posted on 05/21/2015 6:54:52 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/21/2015 6:56:35 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

A lot of gays weren’t born that way, they were sucked into it.


3 posted on 05/21/2015 6:57:34 AM PDT by null and void (In a world where lies and propaganda masquerade freely as truth, communication is everything.)
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To: wagglebee

Most americans think they are born that way?? BS If that was so, they would have multiplied along family lines....and that doesn’t happen.


4 posted on 05/21/2015 6:58:21 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: wagglebee

We are all “born that way” to the extent that we are all born sinners. Different people have their different pet sins. Pedophiles will tell you they were born that way. Alcoholics claim they were born that way. Kleptomaniacs will tell you they were born that way. That doesn’t authorize us to indulge those sins.


5 posted on 05/21/2015 6:58:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: wagglebee

Settled science bump.


6 posted on 05/21/2015 6:58:57 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: wagglebee

7 posted on 05/21/2015 6:59:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: null and void

And now they’re sore as hell about it.


8 posted on 05/21/2015 6:59:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: wagglebee

I had an amusing conversation with a libinlaw who vehemently insisted that “it’s not a choice, they’re born that way”.
I kept telling her there was no scientific evidence to support that. I didn’t deny it, but just said that was not proven.

It ended up that I was “just mean for saying that”.

I figured it out later - if they’re “born that way”, it removes the moral component of choosing to behave that way.
And that’s funny, because leftists deny any moral components to any behavioral choices - especially sexual behaviors.


9 posted on 05/21/2015 7:00:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sacajaweau

Most Americans think gays are born “that way” because that’s what the MSM has been saying for years.


10 posted on 05/21/2015 7:02:41 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: wagglebee

“This is not behavior that any rational society should condone, endorse, subsidize, reward, promote or sanction in domestic policy or in the marketplace,” Fischer wrote. “It’s a choice, and a bad one at that.”

This is truth! Bears repeating.


11 posted on 05/21/2015 7:03:06 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: wagglebee

Yes, this is true regarding an obvious dominant genetic component.

But when people believe they are “born that way” all they mean is the physiological response is not consciously chosen.

The lapse of logic is the idea that because it is “not a choice” that therefore a behavior is justified or not justified, moral or immoral, right or wrong etc...


12 posted on 05/21/2015 7:03:29 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: wagglebee

the elusive gay gene...refuses to make appearance

develo-ping


13 posted on 05/21/2015 7:03:49 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: wagglebee

“There is no debate over the health threats posed by engaging in the homosexual lifestyle. Fischer note that the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association admits homosexuals are at greater risk of AIDS, substance and alcohol abuse, depression and anxiety, hepatitis, STDs, and prostate and colon cancer.”

It’s Republicans fault, as once again people blame their own destructive lifestyle on others.

My 21 year old bi daughter and I had this conversation last week. Using facts I explained all this to her. Monday night there was a McDonalds commercial on with someone named Max Greenfield. Apparently he is in some show on Fox. The commercial flat out appeals to girls and gays.

And I said this out loud. “This commercial is sooooo gay!” My daughter called me a homophobe and said she no longer feels safe in my house. Needless to say, as much as I love her, she proved my point. She is moving out.

Too much drama.


14 posted on 05/21/2015 7:05:02 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liawatha, because we need to beat a real commie, not a criminal posing as one.)
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To: wagglebee

bttt


15 posted on 05/21/2015 7:05:56 AM PDT by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Exactly. This is just another side-effect of the larger effort to turn Americans into mindless sheep.


16 posted on 05/21/2015 7:07:32 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: wagglebee

It is a BIGTIME sinful lifestyle choice.


17 posted on 05/21/2015 7:08:45 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: wagglebee

Science is ignorant of spiritual matters.


18 posted on 05/21/2015 7:10:27 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: MrB
I have no fancy words ... I'm not college edamakated, all I know is what I know ... and a know these few things ...

Homosexuals DO NOT subscribe to;

So, the only .... ONLY .... chart left is ..


Now .... I ask only for the homosexual to point to where it came from

Prove your genesis

If you are not on an evolutionary chart of some kind ... you can't be a member of the human race

If you CAN point to your origin, you were hetero-sexually conceived and birthed

If you were hetero sexually conceived and birthed, you have a gender and an identity

If you claim neither ... you choose to ... claim ... neither

It's a choice

They weren't born queer ... they chose queer.

19 posted on 05/21/2015 7:13:21 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: wagglebee

I’ve wondered why, if homosexuals are “born this way”, isn’t there a movement to find a cure? After all, we’re constantly being told “I didn’t choose to be gay.” Seems to me if there’s a condition that forces people to be a certain way without their consent, that’d be something we’d look into curing.


20 posted on 05/21/2015 7:13:56 AM PDT by optiguy (If government is the answer, it was a stupid question.)
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