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Gohmert on Jade Helm: Gov’t Must Not ‘Practice War Against Its Own States’
Mediate ^ | 05/18/15 | Evan McMurry

Posted on 05/19/2015 6:03:21 PM PDT by Enlightened1

Once I observed the map depicting “hostile,” “permissive” and “uncertain” states and locations, I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution.

When the federal government begins, even in practice, games or exercises, to consider any U.S. city or state in “hostile” control and trying to retake it, the message becomes extremely calloused and suspicious.

Such labeling tends to make people who have grown leery of federal government overreach become suspicious of whether their big brother government anticipates certain states may start another civil war or be overtaken by foreign radical Islamist elements which have been reported to be just across our border.

Such labeling by a government that is normally not allowed to use military force against its own citizens is an affront to the residents of that particular state considered as hostile, as if the government is trying to provoke a fight with them.

The map of the exercise needs to change, the names on the map need to change, and the tone of the exercise needs to be completely revamped so the federal government is not intentionally practicing war against its own states.

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gohmert; gohmertjadehelm; jadehelm; jadehelm15; jadehelmgohmert; states; war
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To: Chode

Some biker brawl


21 posted on 05/19/2015 6:58:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

It would seem easily enough verifiable. Everyone from Cruz on down should be hopping on this.


22 posted on 05/19/2015 7:00:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
i've seen six year old's look worse over the last cookie in the bag
23 posted on 05/19/2015 7:04:19 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Enlightened1

I wonder how Texas will respond when the DoD decides to shut down the largest military base in the world and take its $$$$ with it

Gohmert will be squealing in hearings


24 posted on 05/19/2015 8:18:02 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

It’s sure starting to look like the cops did all the shooting. Citizens saw the fights breaking out, heard gunshots and assumed it was the bikers doing the shooting. And it may have been but it’s strange that not one cop or one “civilian” was hit.

And don’t think for a minute that the local and state cops won’t side with the feds.


25 posted on 05/19/2015 8:43:52 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And want to bet that former Twin Peaks proprietor will quietly end up with a lot of money?

He got his franchise pulled.

26 posted on 05/20/2015 12:10:23 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: iontheball

Well I’ll let y’all know if something goes south, part of the operation will be conducted on our ranch. Total acreage our place is the biggest in the county and offers the terrain they’re looking for. We’ve given permission for both air and ground use. Most of the operations will go unnoticed due to surrounding hill’s and rocky canyon’s. With 42 square miles to operate in they have plenty of room. What they will be doing in town is pretty much a cat and mouse game. The mice will be undercover and blending in with the local population while planning their own operations and when it starts the cat starts looking for them and taking them out. My guess is the mice are already in position. So far there has been no sign of any military operation taking place, no personnel and no equipment in spite of what rumors are out there.

My thoughts on this are pretty simple, it’s just a training operation to find and remove terrorist operatives inside the US. The local refinery I’m pretty sure will be one of the targets in this simulation as well as the old Air Force base which is now the Air Park.


27 posted on 05/20/2015 3:33:38 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No. It is not verifiable. It’s about the most absurd conspiracy theory I’ve ever seen.


28 posted on 05/20/2015 7:54:49 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: itsahoot

To keep him from squealing I mean.


29 posted on 05/20/2015 8:12:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

What did you attempt to do to verify its falsity?

It is on a level with everything else Barack has done. I have not seen him extend charitable act one to conservatives.


30 posted on 05/20/2015 8:14:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Enlightened1
I posted this scenario in June 2014.


Obama will be term-limited out of the White House in 2016, but he has already hinted that he will "stay in Washington DC" after his presidency is over.

What he will do is "organize" his civilian force that will have been weaponized by the time he leaves office.

Obama will arise as a leader in exile with his own loyal military, and he will challenge the incoming President with the threat of real force at some point early in the next administration.

Thinking about it further, it explains all the weapons, ammo, body vests, and armor requests from the BLM, USDA, IRS, Social Security, NOAA, and other bureaucratic outfits not expected to be heavily armored.

When Obama is ready, he will make a loyalty call to anyone from these government jobs who supports him, and will mobilize a militarized insurgency within all 50 states. He doesn't need a centralized army, he will have enough force in each state that matters, enough to scare.

Most recently militarized...

NOAA and Social Security

USDA


Now he's working on getting the local police out of the way.

-PJ

31 posted on 05/20/2015 8:39:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

But, as it turn out, the enemies who will be crushed by the government are just Texas...


Obama HATES Texas. I’m proud of that record.

The new and improved Satanic DOD will have to crush our National Guard along with any other States that stands up for us.

Since he’s bringing in a lot of Islamists and settling many of them in Texas, I wonder if he’s got an Isis plot going. I would put nothing past him.


32 posted on 05/20/2015 10:46:06 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: The Final Harvest
Not a "dry run" for Jade Helm, but how about 'clearing the playing field of the opposition before Jade Helm starts'? I mean, who could cause big problems for the Jade Helm players if they pushed too far in Texas? The Cossacks and Bandidos on bikes!!!

This was an orchestrated ROUND UP.

33 posted on 05/20/2015 11:12:29 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (,)
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To: hoosiermama; LucyT

Entire Gohmert statement:
http://highlandcountypress.com/print.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=22&ArticleID=27707

Changes needed in Jade Helm military exercises

Sunday, May 17, 2015

By Rep. Louie Gohmert
R-Texas

Over the past few weeks, my office has been inundated with calls referring to the Jade Helm 15 military exercise scheduled to take place between July 15 and September 15, 2015.

This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law.

Certainly, I can understand these concerns.

When leaders within the current administration believe that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even “cling to guns or religion,” patriotic Americans have reason to be concerned.

We have seen people working in this administration use their government positions to persecute people with conservative beliefs in God, country, and notions such as honor and self-reliance.

Because of the contempt and antipathy for the true patriots or even Christian saints persecuted for their Christian beliefs, it is no surprise that those who have experienced or noticed such persecution are legitimately suspicious.

Having served in the U.S. Army, I can understand why military officials have a goal to see if groups of Special Forces can move around a civilian population without being noticed and can handle various threat scenarios.

In military science classes or in my years on active duty, I have participated in or observed military exercises; however, we never named an existing city or state as a “hostile.” We would use fictitious names before we would do such a thing.

Once I observed the map depicting “hostile,” “permissive” and “uncertain” states and locations, I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution.

When the federal government begins, even in practice, games or exercises, to consider any U.S. city or state in “hostile” control and trying to retake it, the message becomes extremely calloused and suspicious.

Such labeling tends to make people who have grown leery of federal government overreach become suspicious of whether their big brother government anticipates certain states may start another civil war or be overtaken by foreign radical Islamist elements which have been reported to be just across our border.

Such labeling by a government that is normally not allowed to use military force against its own citizens is an affront to the residents of that particular state considered as hostile, as if the government is trying to provoke a fight with them.

The map of the exercise needs to change, the names on the map need to change, and the tone of the exercise needs to be completely revamped so the federal government is not intentionally practicing war against its own states.


34 posted on 05/20/2015 5:13:20 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: ClearCase_guy

Honestly while I agree this particular report may be blown out of preposition, the general direction and implication of the Obama administration has always been to provoke from giving political orders to priorities political enemies as potential threats on Government orders.

As Ted cruz pointed out Obama has given us plenty of reason over the years that he means not only to provoke us but to persecute us everywhere he can. He treats his countries citizen as a more serous threat than foreign nationals. Obama probably ordered theses exercises precisely because he hopes to stir up trouble.

The military now carries them out at the risk of alienating their own political base and thus also compizeing their future ablity to get funding. That may in part be what Obama wants, but what he also gets is a population that now sees the Federal Government as a more serous threat to our liberty us than just about any other. That is fantastic ground for a Anti-Washington Constitutional convention.


35 posted on 05/20/2015 6:28:16 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Paladin2

Mexico would not tolerate U.S. Military forces joining them in the fight against the drug cartels it would drive a population that has been taught for generations about the Mexican-American war 160 years ago and the supposed thief of their land into the hands of the same drug cartels.

So unless we are planning to actually invade and conquer Mexico, which is unthinkable, the exercises are clearly some form of effort to prepare to the military for some sort of police action.


36 posted on 05/20/2015 6:36:36 PM PDT by Monorprise
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