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Removal of Confederate flags from cemetery sparks controversy [Alabama]
Fox Carolina ^ | May 16, 2015 | Lindsey Rogers

Posted on 05/16/2015 1:32:34 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

A prominent attorney admits to taking flags from the graves of soldiers, a move that's sparked both positive reaction and calls for him to be arrested and disbarred. He's also received death threats and hate mail.

The lawyer says his actions are meant to promote unity.

A bag of small Confederate flags sits at Union Springs City Hall. They were removed from graves at an old Confederate cemetery downtown, behind the Red Door Theater, near the intersection of Highway 82 and North Prairie Street.

Myron Penn pulled up the flags with his family on Mother's Day. Penn, a founding partner at Penn & Seaborn Attorneys at Law in Union Springs, who served as state senator for two terms and as chairman of the Bullock County Commission, says he did it for his 4-year-old son.

“The reason why we picked them up is because the image of the flags in our community, a lot of people feel that they're a symbol of divisiveness and oppression of many people in our community,” Penn said. “Especially with the history that that flag and the connotation and negativism that it brings. I would think that no one in our community would have a problem with this or with my actions at all.”

(Excerpt) Read more at foxcarolina.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: abortion; alabama; battleflag; confederate; dixie; grave; plannedparenthood; sanger; scv; zot
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To: higgmeister

What I resent is the veneration of a treasonous flag. Had the South prevailed we would be two different nations, not The United States of America so that tells me for people such as yourself you’re not an person who views this great nation as you claim to and for your information bub my ancestor served in The Union Army so where do you get off telling me this doesn’t concern me?


141 posted on 05/18/2015 6:22:39 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: Timber Rattler

Pick another country to live in bud.


142 posted on 05/18/2015 6:23:07 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: PAR35

Nathan Bedford Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of The Ku Klux Klan, which was organized in 1866 in Pulaski Tenn. making him not only a traitor but a racist as well.


143 posted on 05/18/2015 6:25:20 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: jmacusa

Admit it, that is you pulling those flags.


144 posted on 05/18/2015 6:28:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Ah, no ol’ buddy old pal ‘o’ mine, I’m not black.I’m as white as a cotton ball, Sorry. Much as I hate Confederates I ain’t about stepping on graves and such. Even Rebs. That can put you in trouble with the Big Guy upstairs as I see it and I don’t want that kind of trouble. Y’all have a nice day General.


145 posted on 05/18/2015 6:52:25 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: jmacusa
Re Wiki:

In July 1875, Forrest demonstrated that his personal sentiments on the issue of race now differed from that of the Klan, when he was invited to give a speech before an organization of black Southerners advocating racial reconciliation, called the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association. At this, his last public appearance, he made what the New York Times described as a "friendly speech"[10] during which, when offered a bouquet of flowers by a black woman, he accepted them as a token of reconciliation between the races and espoused a radically progressive (for the time) agenda of equality and harmony between black and white Americans.[56] His speech was as follows:

"Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) This day is a day that is proud to me, having occupied the position that I did for the past twelve years, and been misunderstood by your race. This is the first opportunity I have had during that time to say that I am your friend. I am here a representative of the southern people, one more slandered and maligned than any man in the nation.I will say to you and to the colored race that men who bore arms and followed the flag of the Confederacy are, with very few exceptions, your friends. I have an opportunity of saying what I have always felt - that I am your friend, for my interests are your interests, and your interests are my interests. We were born on the same soil, breathe the same air, and live in the same land. Why, then, can we not live as brothers? I will say that when the war broke out I felt it my duty to stand by my people. When the time came I did the best I could, and I don't believe I flickered. I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe that I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to bring about peace. It has always been my motto to elevate every man- to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going.I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, that you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Use your best judgement in selecting men for office and vote as you think right.Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. I have been in the heat of battle when colored men, asked me to protect them. I have placed myself between them and the bullets of my men, and told them they should be kept unharmed. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand." (Prolonged applause.)

This group received him well. And that was their choice. Not yours.

146 posted on 05/18/2015 7:00:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

The man was the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, was he not? A group that terrorized and killed black, Catholics(of which am I one) , Jews and anyone else it didn’t like, correct?


147 posted on 05/18/2015 7:10:45 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: jmacusa

Kiss my ass yankee

Quit trying to act like you’re all fair minded

You’ve been a preening self righteous race baiting south basher as long as ive been here

Bigot


148 posted on 05/18/2015 7:16:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: jmacusa

I stand by my comment.


149 posted on 05/18/2015 7:46:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: wardaddy

We never more accurately describe the nature of ourselves than when we’re attempting to describe the nature of another. Thank you for finally revealing yourself Reb. It’s been very informative seeing you venerate a people who thought they were superior to the point of telling themselves it was perfectly alright to own another human being and going so far as to start a war to keep doing so.


150 posted on 05/18/2015 7:52:05 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: onedoug
Which is to say you're no conservative but at heart a supporter of Democrat secessionists.
151 posted on 05/18/2015 7:53:41 AM PDT by jmacusa (`)
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To: jmacusa; CatherineofAragon; Pelham; Jack Black; StoneWall Brigade; Georgia Girl 2; mrsmel

You’re a coward who spouts cliche after cliche

Normal white yankees do not fixate on white southern heritage and sacrifice like you do

I have watched your little band for 15 years here

Most of them were eventually outed as liberals and agitators and homosexuals and fake priests and college lib professors and black GOP shite stirrers etc

A few of you are left

Only one has had the courage to be forthcoming about their perspective

Kangaroo

Maybe X. He hints at it

The rest like you lack the balls

We southerners with rare exception descend from CSA stock and the Revolution and before

Most Yankees are latecomer square heads or Eastern Europeans especially in the northeast

Now you can claim anything on this forum but demographics don’t lie

Who I am here and what I claim to stand for is an open book

Even to the point a fair number know me in real life

Not one of you cowards are forthcoming about anything and bashing Dixie is about all you do here

You’re lucky I’m not Jm Thompson

Aren’t you the freeper posting fake pics of yourself up?

Like a muscled gear head with your pony car....which was a lie

Pitiful my man


152 posted on 05/18/2015 8:11:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: wardaddy; jmacusa

I tell you what, for his blood pressure’s sake, jma would do well to stay away from this part of central Virginia.

The Confederate flag is a pretty common sight around here. Just up the road, there’s a family who flies it on a tall pole outside their home. It’s funny, but no one gets upset about it...including the black folks.

It wouldn’t do for a sensitive person to come down here and develop an ulcer.


153 posted on 05/18/2015 8:11:58 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: jmacusa
"Y’all have a nice day "

Did you study basic grammar in grade school?

154 posted on 05/18/2015 8:14:01 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: jmacusa
We have room

Who's "we", Kemosabe?

155 posted on 05/18/2015 8:14:53 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: jmacusa

I wish nolu chan was still here

He’d bust up all y’all’s lies

He singlehandedly destroyed the turds at klown posse

And he detested south bashers even though he lived way north

I suspect he’s passed

He was already old

Lucky you. Lol


156 posted on 05/18/2015 8:15:42 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: CatherineofAragon

He doesn’t leave his moms basement No worries


157 posted on 05/18/2015 8:18:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: jmacusa; wardaddy
" It’s been very informative seeing you venerate a people who thought they were superior to the point of telling themselves it was perfectly alright to own another human being"

So did Northerners. In fact, there were a handful of slaves still in New Jersey at the end of the war.

And it's worth a mention that New England slave ships continued to import slaves to the South well after slavery was outlawed in the North.

158 posted on 05/18/2015 8:26:23 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: jmacusa
"Nathan Bedford Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of The Ku Klux Klan, which was organized in 1866 in Pulaski Tenn. making him not only a traitor but a racist as well."

Suggest you look up the list of states where the KKK is currently active. You'll find just about as many northern states as southern ones.

159 posted on 05/18/2015 8:30:46 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: jmacusa

Yankees had slaves hoss and controlled the shipment of them the world over

They just had less than did we and for two reasons only

CLIMATE(mostly)

SOIL

Not because they were more moral .,...Cause they sure weren’t too moral with the Red Man now where they

Boo hoo

Yankee moral superiority preening in flames

I hate it


160 posted on 05/18/2015 8:32:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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