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1 posted on 05/15/2015 9:11:55 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: KC_Lion; GeronL

Ping.


2 posted on 05/15/2015 9:13:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

bump

Them and China are going to the wall with their military build-ups as we cut back


3 posted on 05/15/2015 9:14:00 PM PDT by GeronL (NEW ARRIVALS -> 99 cents buy here: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/541331)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


6 posted on 05/15/2015 9:14:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; a fool in paradise

Shtorm class..SHTF Class??


7 posted on 05/15/2015 9:15:09 PM PDT by GeronL (NEW ARRIVALS -> 99 cents buy here: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/541331)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How can any large capital ship hope to survive flocks of C4 plastique armed nini drones launched from distant submarines and directed on target via satellite?


10 posted on 05/15/2015 9:19:52 PM PDT by allendale
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So it doesn’t actually exist?

How many carriers does Russia have again?
One, built by Ukraine, and they never leave port without a tug boat in case it breaks down.

“In December 1991, she sailed from the Black Sea to join the Northern Fleet. Only from 1993 on did she receive aircraft.”

“In December 1991, she sailed from the Black Sea to join the Northern Fleet. Only from 1993 on did she receive aircraft”

“At the end of 1997 she remained immobilized in a Northern Fleet shipyard, awaiting funding for major repairs, which were halted when they were only 20% complete. The overhaul was completed in July 1998, and the ship returned to active service in the Northern fleet on 3 November 1998. “

“Kuznetsov apparently remained in port for about two years before preparing for another Mediterranean deployment scheduled for the winter of 2000–2001. This deployment was cancelled due to the loss of the nuclear-powered submarine Kursk.”

“In late 2003 and early 2004, Kuznetsov went to sea for inspection and trials. During the 2005 exercise, one of her Su-33 fighters was involved in an accident, and fell from the carrier into the Atlantic Ocean.”

“On 27 September 2006 it was announced that Admiral Kuznetsov will return to service in the Northern Fleet by the end of the year. The ship will undergo another modernization refit, in an attempt to correct some of her many technical issues.”

“On 5 December 2008 the aircraft carrier and several other vessels left Severomorsk heading for the Atlantic on a tour which was announced would be lasting several months and which would include combat training including joint drills with Russia’s Black Sea Fleet and visits to several ports in the Mediterranean. On this tour while the Admiral Kuznetsov anchored off Turkey on 7 January 2009 a small fire broke out on the ship. One crew member was killed by carbon monoxide poisoning. The fire was caused by a short-circuit.
On 16 February 2009, Admiral Kuznetsov, along with other Russian naval vessels was involved in a large oil spill while she refueled off the south coast of Ireland.”

“Although financial and technical problems have resulted in limited operations for the ship, it is expected that Admiral Kuznetsov will remain in active duty until at least 2030.”


12 posted on 05/15/2015 9:20:34 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sounds like Putin is following the same strategy that bankrupted the USSR. Providing we get a President with the balls to stand up to them.


19 posted on 05/15/2015 9:25:50 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I guess Russia and China didn’t get that message that aircraft carriers are obsolete


28 posted on 05/15/2015 9:39:42 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: sukhoi-30mki
OK, that's nice.

Can they afford the rest of the task group and the replenishment ships that are needed to keep this thing from being a VERY expensive artificial reef if the balloon goes up?

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

29 posted on 05/15/2015 9:42:28 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
An Aircraft Carrier and it ships are a formidable force against an adversary that is not technologically advanced. Our Aircraft Carries in combat against Russia or China will be sunk as surely as theirs will be sunk by us. They can send a few nukes by their aircraft but those aircraft will have no ship to land on after their mission.

That is just the way it is.

30 posted on 05/15/2015 9:43:56 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why don’t they just ask Obutthole if they can buy one from us?


33 posted on 05/15/2015 9:56:53 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ruskies draw pretty pictures.


34 posted on 05/15/2015 10:12:11 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Power loves a vacuum.

Obama VS Putin

38 posted on 05/15/2015 10:31:17 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Aircraft carriers are obsolete, as were our battleships in 1941.


39 posted on 05/15/2015 10:33:09 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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Though Zvezda reported that Krylov’s design would be powered by a nuclear reactor, Polyakov said the version of the design to be shown in St. Petersburg will run on convention diesel fuel. The design could be tweaked to fit a nuclear system if necessary, he said.

....

Well, that’s not very impressive.


46 posted on 05/15/2015 10:42:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Those billions of rubles squandered on the Olympics could have been put to use in building a new capable shipyard and drydock complex.


57 posted on 05/15/2015 11:44:00 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Stupid grunt question: Why does the ship have oars on the side?

Stupid question No. 2: How much beer and rum does it carry and what’s the daily ration?

Last question: That looks like a Roman quinquereme on the deck. What’s it doing there?


62 posted on 05/16/2015 5:44:25 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sukhoi-30mki

-—— multipurpose aircraft carrier -——

Then it will be ineffective

too many eggs in the basket allows them to break


65 posted on 05/16/2015 8:56:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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