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Amtrak Train May Have Been Struck Before It Derailed, Officials Say
New Yoirk Times ^ | May 15, 2015 | DAVE PHILIPPS and EMMA G. FITZSIMMONS

Posted on 05/15/2015 4:20:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey

PHILADELPHIA — An assistant conductor on the Amtrak train that derailed on Tuesday believes she heard the engineer tell another regional train operator in a radio transmission that the train had been struck by something just before the accident, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

At a news conference on Friday, Robert L. Sumwalt, the safety board official who is leading the investigation, said the F.B.I. had been asked to examine what he described as a fist-size impact area found on the lower left side of the train’s windshield. Officials said that the F.B.I. had been called in because it has the forensics expertise needed for the investigation, but that it had not yet begun its analysis.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: amtrak; amtrakinvestigation; derailment; philadelphia; train; trainwreck
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To: MeshugeMikey

I am no physicist, but getting hit by a projectile would tend to slow an abject down, no? Not speed it up by 100%+.


101 posted on 05/15/2015 5:15:11 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Karl Spooner

There is no word yea or nay whether his reported concussion has a medical report consistent with his head having been struck by a small flying object.

Let’s not get SO focused on his warped love life that we forget terrorists’ hate life. It matters to do this investigation right and a bunch of irresponsible talk is going to distract just the same as it did in Zimmerman’s case. FR does get listened to.


102 posted on 05/15/2015 5:16:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

depending n the size of the projectile I would imagine

thus far I dont believe that theres been any mention of the possible size of this so called projectile

a bullet or a Brick would certainly not slow down a train traveling at that speed..a boulder sized rock might depending on the point of impact

simply saying a projectile...may have hit the train isnt really saying much of anything


103 posted on 05/15/2015 5:17:42 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The trouble would come if it hit someone inside the train.


104 posted on 05/15/2015 5:18:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

A few days ago when this all started hitting the news, I thought they had reported a DIFFERENT train getting hit by a projectile, close to this wreck.

I’d sure want to rule out “SNIPER”.


105 posted on 05/15/2015 5:19:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GilGil

Yeah but the Philly Mayor was coming down pretty hard on the guy...


106 posted on 05/15/2015 5:19:41 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (NSA: The only government agency that really listens.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Train physics from a few years ago when a freight train got caught in a tornado. Being a freight train, I’m guessing it was going considerably slower than 100 mph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYubpuIe3cw


107 posted on 05/15/2015 5:21:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: MeshugeMikey

I just looked at another almost identical article....and like the New York TImes.....it appeared on the website of another Leftist publication....

how very odd that is.....


108 posted on 05/15/2015 5:21:19 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Rennes Templar

Has anyone wondered if the “gay” factor could be a distraction in this situation. Maybe he’s acting like a wimp, but still.


109 posted on 05/15/2015 5:21:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Should we cover up for an Islamoterrorist or for a Gay? What to do? What to do?


110 posted on 05/15/2015 5:22:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

OH OH you seem to have just hit the JACKPOT

the original MENTION of a projectal...was one that hit another train...run by some company other than amtrak

THANK YOU now to bump THAT article.

and connect the two threads.


111 posted on 05/15/2015 5:25:12 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: CedarDave
I don't think his being gay, straight or purple had anything to do with it

It has everything to do with it. Stressful jobs involving the safety of large numbers of lives requires someone without emotional baggage. Think about it.

112 posted on 05/15/2015 5:25:52 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: MeshugeMikey

There was another grain hit before this derailment. The ‘witness’ could have been haring this in the ‘cafe car’ over CB?


113 posted on 05/15/2015 5:27:13 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

that story NOW has BOTH TRAINS being hit by projectiles If Im reading this correctly

SEPTA, Amtrak trains hit by projectiles minutes before fatal crash
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150514_SEPTA_train_hit_by_projectile_before_Amtrak_crash.html#xLClMz0IDXK0cPzH.99

the INITIAL STORY did not mention the amtrak train being HIT...but that the SEPTA train had been moments before the AMTRAK crash.

something stinks


114 posted on 05/15/2015 5:28:07 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Sir Napsalot

>>> And that other Amtrack employee hasn’t seen fit to report it to the authorities since Tuesday.

Correction: “that other Amtrack employee” should have been SEPTA employee. But the questions are still there.


115 posted on 05/15/2015 5:28:19 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Bingo. I just mentioned that below. Y’all beat me to my brainstorming. ;)


116 posted on 05/15/2015 5:28:50 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Sir Napsalot

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150514_SEPTA_train_hit_by_projectile_before_Amtrak_crash.html

the FIRST mention of the word projectile.....did not mention the AMTRAK train being hit by said object

it said...that the SEPTA train had been hit moments before the AMTRAK crash

I find this odd inconsistency in reporting just a bit disturbing


117 posted on 05/15/2015 5:30:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey
RUMOR has it that the camera’s had been installed six months ago...but there was a complicated wating period..as per the FCC.REGULATIONS...before they could be “activated”....

BS. These are new engines and this one is about a year old and came with an "event recorder" that included an outward facing camera. Comments I've read on Trainorders are unclear as to whether it has an inward facing camera.

Amtrak ACS-64 #601 undergoing speed/acceleration test, Pueblo, Co., August 2013..

From 0 to 125 mph pulling loaded 8-car train in 2 1/2 minutes.

118 posted on 05/15/2015 5:32:46 PM PDT by CedarDave (Bush vs. Clinton in 2016? If you have a 24-year old car, the bumper stickers are still good!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Let’s not get SO focused on his warped love life that we forget terrorists’ hate life. It matters to do this investigation right and a bunch of irresponsible talk is going to distract just the same as it did in Zimmerman’s case. FR does get listened to.

I didn't mention anything about gays on this thread. You seem to be the one who is "focused".

119 posted on 05/15/2015 5:33:20 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: MeshugeMikey; fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; South Hawthorne; ..
PA Ping!

If you see posts of interest to Pennsylvanians, please ping me.

Thanks!

Thanks MeshugeMikey

120 posted on 05/15/2015 5:34:52 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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