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Pamela Geller: A Response to My Critics
Time ^ | 6 May 2015 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 05/07/2015 11:50:20 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Sunday in Garland, Texas, a police officer was wounded in a battle that is part of a longstanding war: the war against the freedom of speech. Some people are blaming me for the Garland shooting — so I want to address that here?

The shooting happened at my American Freedom Defense Initiative Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest, when two Islamic jihadists armed with rifles and explosives drove up to the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland and attempted to gain entry to our event, which was just ending. We were aware of the risk and spent thousands of dollars on security — and it paid off. The jihadis at our free speech event were not able to achieve their objective of replicating the massacre at the offices of the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine last January — and to go it one better in carnage. They were not able to kill anyone. We provided enormous security, in concert with the superb Garland police department. The men who took the aspiring killers down may have saved hundreds of lives.

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To: Rummyfan
Bravo Ms. Geller. She's saying what I've said here earlier. The First Amendment gives everyone the right to free speech but it does not give anyone the right not to be offended by that speech nor does it give someone so offended the right to have that speech silenced or denied and a persons right to express that speech. This bit of complexity is something Islam is either unable or unwilling to understand since Islam is linear. It does not allow one the right to question. It's ‘’submit or die’’. This complexity is also lost on the Left and it is why Islam and the Left are fellow travelers. Geller is sounding the warning that without this most basic, most fundamental right of a free people than a free people have no rights at all and freedom is a cruel joke. In a little less than three weeks we will be celebrating Memorial Day. A day in our secular calendar I consider hallow. It's when we honor those who have given ‘’their last full measure of devotion’’ to give us the rights we have. To allow a bunch of nilhisistic pygmies the notion they can deny us our rights in the name of their god would be akin to urinating on the graves of our hallowed heroes.
21 posted on 05/07/2015 12:16:03 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Rummyfan

Awesome editorial.

Pamela for POTUS!


22 posted on 05/07/2015 12:21:36 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Dick Bachert

Preach it, Brother Dick. Preach it!


23 posted on 05/07/2015 12:31:13 PM PDT by Calpublican (No Comprendo)
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To: Rummyfan
Muck Muck and Suk Suk got a .45 ACP lobotomy...
24 posted on 05/07/2015 12:42:53 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: smokingfrog

In the past, our leaders practiced Realpolitik with the Islamic Hoards; arming both sides of the conflict and eating popcorn in the front row while they butchered eachother. Now our “fundamental transformation of America” leaders are bringing Islamic Immigrants to American shores to further the Islamic agenda (Al Hijrah). Heck, I think they may even being trying to build a Caliphate!?


25 posted on 05/07/2015 12:50:39 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Rummyfan
Nobody wants to compare Geller with the Left's support of Socialist marches through holocaust survivor neighborhoods in Skokie, IL in 1977. The ACLU defended their right to wear Swastikas as free speech, knowing it would enrage Jews.

How is this any different?

From Wikipedia: National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie


Purpose of the Case

In 1977 Frank Collin, the leader of National Socialist Party of America, announced the party's intention to march through Skokie, Illinois. In the predominantly Jewish community, one in six residents was a Holocaust survivor[citation needed]. Originally, the NSPA had planned a political rally in Marquette Park in Chicago; however the Chicago authorities blocked these plans by requiring the NSPA to post a public safety insurance bond and by banning political demonstrations in Marquette Park.

On behalf of the NSPA, the ACLU challenged the injunction issued by the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois that prohibited marchers at the proposed Skokie rally from wearing Nazi uniforms or displaying swastikas. The ACLU was represented by civil rights attorney Burton Joseph.[1][2] The challengers argued that the injunction violated the First Amendment rights of the marchers to express themselves.

Prior history

Both the Illinois Appellate Court and the Illinois Supreme Court refused to stay the injunction. The case was sent to the Supreme Court of the United States.[3]

On June 14, 1977, the Supreme Court ordered Illinois to hold a hearing on their ruling against the National Socialist Party of America, emphasizing that "if a State seeks to impose a restraint on First Amendment rights, it must provide strict procedural safeguards, including immediate appellate review... Absent such review, the State must instead allow a stay. The order of the Illinois Supreme Court constituted a denial of that right."[3] On remand, the Illinois Appellate Court eliminated the injunction against everything but the swastika. The Illinois Supreme Court heard the case again, focusing on the First Amendment implications of display of the swastika. Skokie attorneys argued that for Holocaust survivors, seeing the swastika was like being physically attacked.

The Illinois Supreme Court ruled that the use of the swastika is a symbolic form of free speech entitled to First Amendment protections and determined that the swastika itself did not constitute "fighting words." Its ruling allowed the National Socialist Party of America to march.[3]

Effect of the decision

In the summer of 1978, in response to the Supreme Court's decision, some Holocaust survivors set up a museum on the Main Street of Skokie to commemorate those who had died in the concentration camps. Ultimately the NSPA failed to carry through its march in Skokie. (Gaining permission in Chicago, they marched there instead).


-PJ

26 posted on 05/07/2015 12:58:08 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Calpublican

Thanks. This CHIT has to STOP!!


27 posted on 05/07/2015 1:00:09 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Rummyfan

ping


28 posted on 05/07/2015 1:00:47 PM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: fhayek

Ms. Geller is doing us a service by trying to un-blur some of the lines that got fuzzy at least as far back as when GWBush insisted after 9/11 that “we are not at war with Islam.” The real question is whether Islam wants to be at war with us. Maybe if the overriding practical lesson, “if you mess with us, we will f*ck you up” gets repeated often enough, Muslim communities in the US will come to undertake enough self-policing to ensure the peace. In the meantime, my hope is that the organizers of gun shows will start a tradition of holding a “Draw Mohammed” competition as entertainment at every event.


29 posted on 05/07/2015 1:03:38 PM PDT by thanatz
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To: Rummyfan

ANY United States citizen that is directly named and whose life is directly threatened by international Islamist/Jihadist murder cartels should be given the highest level of U.S. Government security detail , equaling , if not exceeding that given to our highest level diplomats . IF the U.S. Federal Government feels that it cannot afford to do that , at the very least it should be mandated that a high level of private security should be authorized and paid for using former special operation operators .
If the U.S. Federal Government can afford to offer huge bounties on the heads of these same Jihadists , they should also be able to afford the protection of those , here at home , that the same murderous cretins threaten .

Write your Senator about this one .


30 posted on 05/07/2015 1:09:07 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

EZ33.....: Warnings for Watchmen

33 This message came to me from the Lord: 2 “Son of Man, speak to your nation’s children and tell them: ‘If I bring war[a] to a land, and the people of that land appoint one of their conscripted men[b] to serve as a sentinel, 3 and if he notices that violence[c] is approaching and sounds an alarm to warn the people, 4 then if anyone who hears the sound of the alarm does not heed the warning, when the sword arrives and destroys him, his shed blood will remain his own responsibility.[d] 5 After all, he heard the alarm sounding, but did not heed the warning, so his shed blood will remain his own responsibility.[e] If he had heeded the warning, he would have saved himself.[f] 6 If that sentinel notices that violence is approaching, but does not sound an alarm, then because the nation does not take warning and the sword arrives and destroys their lives because of their guilt, I’ll seek retribution for their shed blood from the[g] one who was acting as sentinel.’”


31 posted on 05/07/2015 1:12:56 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Rummyfan

She could spoof Satanists, Nazis, KKKers, but not the worst belief system of all time, Islam. Islam, for all of its evil, is celebrated in this country, because it is a religion other than Christianity.


32 posted on 05/07/2015 1:42:02 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Rummyfan

Dear Pam...
Your critics are liberal idiots, don’t waste your time trying to explain Islamic worldwide aggression to them...too big an idea for thm to comprehend.


33 posted on 05/07/2015 1:44:35 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: hosepipe
When the pendulum turns.. islamics will be running and hiding under rocks... if they are lucky..

There has been an effort to turn us into Yugoslavia, while weakening the rule of law. I wish them luck when they succeed.

34 posted on 05/07/2015 1:50:14 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: Rummyfan

Does anyone find it odd that there was not one protester there at that event? It was publicized and I’m sure there was someone willing to protest but were kept away?


35 posted on 05/07/2015 2:20:15 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: lucky american

The local spokesIman claimed they were protesting the event by ignoring it and “not taking the bait.” Unfortunately, the perps were out of staters and didn’t get the memo.


36 posted on 05/07/2015 2:25:20 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: fhayek
SHAMEFUL ATTACKS BY THE DHIMMIT MEDIA TO PAMELA GELLER AND GERT WILDERS

The American “Dhimmi” media, cowed by Islamic violence, has accepted total submission to the mandates of the Islamic terrorists.

“I wish that as a nation there were more and more of our leaders that had the same kind of courage that this woman [Pam Geller] has,” said Lt. Gen. Boykin (ret.), who is the executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC). “She’s a very brave woman and I think that what she did was upholding and standing for our First Amendment rights. And I don’t think she went too far at all.”

Pamela Geller is defiant. She declared that she has no intention of cowering and intends to hold another free speech event in the near future. “This threat illustrates the savagery and barbarism of the Islamic State,” Geller told the Daily News in a statement she later posted on her website. “They want me dead for violating Sharia blasphemy laws. What remains to be seen is whether the free world will finally wake up and stand for the freedom of speech, or instead kowtow to this evil and continue to denounce me.”

Pamela Geller, Gert Wilders, and Bosch Fawstin (the winner of the contest) are real heroes that have not accepted to be intimidated by Islamic terrorists. It is denigrating for the American media to see their pundits attacking the freedom of expression of those opposed to the Islamization of U.S.

On January 17,2015 and in the same public school center in Garland, there was a “Stand with the Prophet” rally by Muslims, a provocative pro-Shariah law event, by supporters of Al-Qaida and Isis organized by one of the terrorists implicated in the bombing of the garage of the NY World Trade Center in 1993.

I wonder if those who try to blame the organizers of the “First Annual Muhammad Art Exhibit and Contest,” for the Muslim terrorist attack would have justified if a patriotic American had irrupted in the Muslim rally on January and made a massacre of Islamic terrorists. After all, Americans are profoundly offended by their provocation and the abuse of our freedoms by those who made the Muslim rally in support of the savages that decapitate, crucify and burned Christians alive.

The “Dhimmi” media, scared by Islamic violence, auto-censors itself and tries to justify the terrorist attack in Texas because the Mohamed cartoons contest offended the sensibility of Islamic terrorists.

On January 2015, radical Islamists desecrated the holy soil of Texas. Do not mess with Texas!!!

The Terrorists Among Us

Cal Thomas | May 07, 2015

http://townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/2015/05/07/the-terrorists-among-us-n1995252/print

”Those mosques and Islamic schools that teach hate and preach the destruction of America must be closed and never reopened. Some have gone beyond First Amendment protection to practice sedition, which Wikipedia defines as "overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority."

ISIS Comes To Texas – This Is War

Noisy Room ^ | May 4 2015 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3286035/posts?page=2

Iranian Commander: We Won’t Rest Until US is an Islamic Republic

Don’t allow Obama and the media fool us, radical Islam officially declared war against U.S. on 9/11/2001.

In Switzerland everybody is drafted and they keep their arms in home in case they need to defend their country. It is imperative that all American arm themselves, the jihadists are already in and can attack any time our churches, malls, theaters, slaughtering innocents men women and children as they are massacring Christians in Africa and the Middle East.

37 posted on 05/07/2015 2:42:45 PM PDT by Dqban22 (h=white)
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To: Rummyfan
To learn who rules over you, simply find out whom you cannot criticize. If the international media had run the Danish cartoons back in 2005, none of this could have happened. The jihadis wouldn’t have been able to kill everyone. But by self-censoring, the media gave the jihadis the power they have today.

We must take back our freedom.

38 posted on 05/07/2015 2:47:07 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: TexasCajun

Not sure how or why she (PG) wrote this in Time, but actually thankful she did. Once again, she travels to the belly of the beast.

May He keep and protect her.


39 posted on 05/07/2015 2:48:33 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Rummyfan

She offers no one an explanation.

God keep her safe.


40 posted on 05/07/2015 2:49:48 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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