Posted on 05/05/2015 6:26:24 PM PDT by Kaslin
The Texas congressman is joining others in his state calling for the Pentagon to alter the Jade Helm 15 military exercises.
May 5, 2015 U.S. Special Operations Command is preparing to launch a five-month, multi-state exercise across private and public land to prepare Army special forces for threats anywhere in the world. Or at least that's what the Pentagon would want you to believe. Officials and citizens in Texas, one of the states involved, see something potentially more nefarious in the exercise, dubbed Jade Helm 15. And now Rep. Louie Gohmert is joining them.
"Over the past few weeks, my office has been inundated with calls referring to the Jade Helm 15 military exercise scheduled to take place between July 15 and September 15, 2015," Gohmert said in a Tuesday statement. "This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law. Certainly, I can understand these concerns."
"When leaders within the current administration believe that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even 'cling to guns or religion,' patriotic Americans have reason to be concerned," Gohmert wrote.
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This type of conspiracy theories is so incredibly idiotic that anyone believing it should be committed.
They are not out to get you...that’s for sure, just the ones that are paranoid, the local militants.
also see null and void’s post #53:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3286691/posts?page=53#53
All y’all, keep your eyes open on this one, and don’t let up on those who would try to give excuses...
folks here who were in the military and seen such exercises haven’t seen them on such a scale and under a regime such as the one we have now.
I’ve seen this kind of political operation before, both in events elsewhere in the past and in histories of similar operations. Here’s what’s being done.
Certain scared, extremely influential political constituents, their pocket politicians and sponsored media folks are pushing the conspiracy theory. They’re hoping that some of the least intelligent individuals with rifles will cause incidents, and you know why. Some of the more moronic dupes or trolls have already threatened to open fire on the soldiers (who won’t even have live ammunition).
Remember that there are very influential constituents in both political parties who want to disarm all but their own kind. They want to disarm the middle class. It’s not only Democrats. And don’t assume that you are one of those very influential constituents or very special to them.
Many who participate on all kinds of discussion boards (including this one) while wanting laws against middle class Americans owning rifles are adding lies to the stories (dishonest claims that soldiers are trespassing on private, residential properties, using artillery simulators next to private homes, etc.). The claims were made long before the exercise started.
I participated in an exercise like that during the years of the George H. W. Bush Administration. We were not practicing to take over the world. We were practicing to protect friendly locals and their infrastructure, wherever those friendly locals may be in the future. The locals enjoyed seeing us.
The problem now is that many of the locals here and there are not so friendly. Neighborhood guy is a commando in his own mind, and he’s looking for trouble.
If they take Texas we are all through
Of all the conspiracy theories I have read over the years, the may be the most ridiculous. And boy is that saying something.
Quite glad to see it has gained little traction here.
Run this exercise in Mexico.
source for ‘folks here who were in the military... haven’t seen them on such a scale’:
robowombat’s post here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3286691/posts?page=1#1
Yes, thanks.
They’re hoping that some of the least intelligent individuals with rifles will cause incidents, and you know why. Some of the more moronic dupes or trolls have already threatened to open fire on the soldiers (who won’t even have live ammunition).
Their aim is to disarm the middle class.
I’m resposting my comment from another thread:
I know it may seem that I am speaking out of both sides of my mouth, but I see both sides—I am on both sides. Military doctrine has changed dramatically over the past few decades. The “we never did it that way when I was in,” doesn’t pass muster. Our military now operates as a unified force under combatant commands. It works well in that environment: one force; one fight. We are all still in different services, but we fight under one commander. And yes, we still swear oaths to protect the country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
The problem is that many conservatives (rightly) fear who may be making that decision at the federal level, and an expanded chain of command that excludes local constituencies. There is a danger that the unified command structure be used to integrate all levels of military and law enforcement into a single chain of command, rather than continuing to work cooperatively. This is not only confusing, but totally illegal. Law enforcement and military have distinctly different jobs and they cannot be mixed without horrific consequences. The definition of police state is a state where the police and military have no distinction.
I don’t think we are there, but there is reason to raise a flag and ask the questions. However, acting like Alex Jones disciples is not solution either. Write letters; go to conferences; research modern warfare and policing. Find out what is happening and respond in a reasonable manner.
You can’t have it both ways. These same folks, who are complaining now, will be complaining that we didn’t figure out how to respond to an attack or national disaster that taxes our resources and personnel. And remember, many, if not most of us, are the same as you. We are here to defend the country and are working in an asymmetric environment that requires that we work to strengthen, not break, the very system that we have sworn to protect.
It’s because there is really nothing to it.
Or enlisted men just know they are doing a training exercise, then a catastrophe, then they are thrown out into the field.
you think it would be hard to just close down the internet, rob our bank accounts?..
you think someone would just stop them from doing it, legally?...
no...we have no leaders...we have yellow bellies who if you promised them a high paying safe job in the new regime, they would go along readily....
this new Joint chiefs guy..the Marine...who gets along with bammy so well....doesn't that scare the shit out of everybody, excuse my French.
I’m not saying that police are useless, by the way—only different. They are there to help secure the exercises against fruitcakes, for one. That’s a big job and a great service.
It would have been great to see a better public affairs effort in advance, though. Individual units have done better in foreign countries.
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