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Freddie Gray’s Knife – Why is Prosecutor Claiming Unlawful Arrest?
Legal Insurrection ^ | May 2, 2015 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 05/02/2015 10:14:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: FredZarguna

I agree that a death in custody is a very serious matter. The circumstances can range from deliberate killing of the suspect to accidental death with or without negligence of the officers. Given what we know of this case, “murder” doesn’t fit any plausible scenario. We’ll see.


61 posted on 05/02/2015 11:03:49 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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To: humblegunner

Good point on the outstandin warrants,if he had em he had no rights an carryin a knife,any knife is a violation


62 posted on 05/02/2015 11:04:26 AM PDT by advertising guy ( panties - not the best thing on earth, but next to it .)
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To: Parley Baer

BUMP!

Agree. Until we have some FACTS - we have nothing but assumptions and hearsay.

So far, many homes, vehicles and businesses have been destroyed by real criminals throwing a temper tantrum based upon nothing but hearsay - with race-baiting media, political leadership and self-promoting race baiters leading the mobs.

Too bad these race baiters aren’t charged with inciting a riot.


63 posted on 05/02/2015 11:05:06 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Only one, the driver, is being charged with murder.

"along with involuntary manslaughter, Officer Goodson, 45, was charged with “second-degree depraved heart murder,” which means indifference to human life."

Only four of the officers were charged with manslaughter. The two not charged were both white.

64 posted on 05/02/2015 11:06:35 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: humblegunner

“He had outstanding warrants.”

If the outstanding warrant you’re referring to is the one dated 3/13, it was served on the 18th, he was committed, and then bonded out.


65 posted on 05/02/2015 11:07:58 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's a Stiletto, for reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lehLFUHcgd4
66 posted on 05/02/2015 11:09:25 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: don-o

Maybe so. But what is not a matter of speculation is that he should have been restrained.


67 posted on 05/02/2015 11:11:37 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freddie Gray was a useless, drug dealing, insurance claim scamming, pos and waste of oxygen. When his fellow blacks kill such a person it is no big deal to the so called “community”. Black live do not matter when this happens. No way to cash in via lawsuits.

Now enter the police who are tied into this mans death. You get riots, arson and eruptions in the alleged “black community”. Black live matter only when the police are involved. Otherwise crickets, the sound of crickets as punks and gangstas kill punks and gangstas


68 posted on 05/02/2015 11:11:46 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How did the cop know Gray was carrying a knife before he was arrested? If Gray had the knife in his pocket, it was invisible, and could not have created probable cause. If the knife was found only after Gray was stopped for something else, it might then be a crime if Gray was under disability.
69 posted on 05/02/2015 11:11:55 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he’s on probation and dealing drugs or even in an environment where there is drug dealing, isn’t that enough reason to bring him in?


70 posted on 05/02/2015 11:12:21 AM PDT by grania
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To: Clintonfatigued

Unless of course, they didn’t

He was a known criminal and resisting and therefore dangerous.


71 posted on 05/02/2015 11:12:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is all political theater to calm the rioters.

All 6 cops will be found not guilty and return to duty if they want to or given a nice severance pay to find employment elsewhere.

Gray was clearly attempting to create a lawsuit by banging himself up until he did the job to well and broke his own neck. This pure conjecture but I won’t be surprised to hear it is correct.

However; there is more to the political story. This will be used to cause unrest when the cops are found not guilty. Cities across the nation will have to go into lockdown with Marshal Law right before the 2016 election thereby leaving obummer in office indefinitely. You heard it here first. :)

Every black death will be sensationalized to get the most political effect possible from them. It will be THE meme. Ironically it will be at the end of the 2nd term of the so-called first black president who is actually mostly white and arab with a pinch of black.


72 posted on 05/02/2015 11:13:02 AM PDT by Boomer (America; love it or leave it. It isn't just a bumper sticker.)
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To: jumpingcholla34

Excellent post. Since there is no way these officers can get a fair trial in that jurisdiction, I pray that a change of venue will be granted. Given the amount of negative publicity and the blatant politicalization of the case, surely that will happen. At the very least, this prosecutor should be removed from the case.


73 posted on 05/02/2015 11:14:17 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: yarddog

I carry something that fits the description. It’s a handy tool that only needs one hand to unpocket, open, use, close and pocket. Takes but a couple of seconds to open a fertilizer bag. It’s almost reflexive and doesn’t even need a glance.


74 posted on 05/02/2015 11:15:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dennisw

amen, amen, amen

weep not for Freddie


75 posted on 05/02/2015 11:15:04 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; advertising guy

See my #65


76 posted on 05/02/2015 11:15:24 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I did but also read there were more warrants


77 posted on 05/02/2015 11:17:07 AM PDT by advertising guy ( panties - not the best thing on earth, but next to it .)
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To: Paladin2

I think you are right. According to an officer with inside knowledge of the case, he was seen making a hand to hand transaction with another man just prior to he and the other man fleeing the scene. I suspect , that given the information from Gray’s long crimianl history, he was not a known user of heroin, only a dealer. The fact that heroin showed up in his toxicology report may mean that he swallowed it to keep from being charged with possession. His difficulty breathing may have been a result of that ingestion.


78 posted on 05/02/2015 11:18:52 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Hodar
So far, many homes, vehicles and businesses have been destroyed by real criminals throwing a temper tantrum based upon nothing but hearsay using the occasion as an excuse to loot and destroy.

The "riots" in Baltimore and elsewhere invariably involve petty theft, grand theft, and violent revenge.

Don't think for a minute that these are "temper tantrums." It's much more calculated than that.

Have a look at all the pre-printed signs, the outside agitators, the SEIU and Daily Worker involvement. The tragic and unnecessary death of a career criminal is fueling many, many extra agendas, including rationalization for ordinary criminality and the recruitment of radicals.

79 posted on 05/02/2015 11:20:00 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m so glad you are posting this. I was wondering the same thing when I heard the prosecutor’s statement yesterday. I knew the knife was reportedly spring loaded and that he was on probation. I think the prosecutor is wrong and I hope that the charge of false imprisonment gets thrown out at the probable cause hearing.


80 posted on 05/02/2015 11:21:54 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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