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Scott Walker in Iowa: States should be allowed to ban same-sex marriages
The Cap Times, Madison ^ | April 26, 2015 | Jessie Opoien

Posted on 04/26/2015 6:04:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WAUKEE, Iowa — When Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker took the stage at 9:30 p.m. Saturday night, the Iowa Faith & Freedom Coalition's spring summit was an hour behind schedule.

He promised the crowd of more than 1,000 at the evangelical Point of Grace Church he would keep his remarks brief so everyone could get home, get to bed and get up for church in the morning. He'd be doing just that, he added, back home in Wauwatosa.

Wearing a suit — with no mention of whether it was from Kohl's — and pacing the stage, Walker was at ease, peppering a few new elements into a stump speech he's given throughout the country as he considers a presidential bid. In his voice, the wear of two days' worth of events across the state could be heard, but his speech drew cheers, stomps and applause.

Just before he took the stage, Walker told reporters he's holding out hope that the U.S. Supreme Court will rule that states can bar same-sex marriages. But if that's not the case, he suggested that voters should seek a constitutional amendment to allow state-level bans.

"I think the appropriate route is for people across America who care deeply about this issue to pursue a constitutional amendment allowing the states to determine what the definition is," Walker told reporters.

When the Supreme Court declined to hear Wisconsin's case last fall, Walker said, "For us, it's over in Wisconsin." But his comments on Saturday indicated he's not ready to walk away from the fight.

He made no mention of a constitutional amendment in his speech, but reaffirmed his belief that marriage "is between one man and one woman" and that states should be the ones to define the terms.

"Another day, and another issue Scott Walker has decided to take a wildly extreme position on," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Jason Pitt. "While the rest of the country moves forward and continues to recognize legal, same-sex marriage, Scott Walker, Steve King and other GOP 2016 hopefuls keep trying to turn back the clock."

Touting his record in Wisconsin, Walker boasted of the state's pension system, its 4.6 percent unemployment rate and the changes enacted through his signature Act 10 legislation, which eliminated collective bargaining rights for most public employees. The protests it sparked first propelled him to the national stage.

The biggest applause came in response to comments about defunding Planned Parenthood and passing castle doctrine, concealed carry and voter ID legislation.

Absent were any mentions of Wisconsin's job growth, which earned him criticism from his detractors during a recent trip to Minnesota. The state ranks at 40th in the nation for job growth and 42nd for wage growth, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. And the state's job growth has lagged the national average since six months into Walker's first term.

But the crowd wasn't gathered at the church to talk about the economy. Most attendees said they were most concerned with where candidates stood on social issues and national security.

For Renee and Troy McGill, of Ankeny, abortion and marriage are top-priority issues when they consider who they'll support in the caucuses.

"For me, pro-life is a huge issue," Renee said. "But I also liked what Carly (Fiorina) had to say about foreign policy."

Troy said he'd like to see a governor run for president, but more than that, he wants a candidate who will say what he or she means and stick to it.

Dallas County Supervisor Mark Hanson said he's heard Walker is that kind of candidate, but it's too soon for him to declare an allegiance with any of the contenders.

But he, too, said he's more likely to support a governor than a senator.

"They're one of 100, and that's a little bit of what Obama is, too," Hanson said.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio found at least one supporter in David Hance, a retired attorney from Ankeny. Hance said the GOP needs someone new to national politics to be successful in 2016.

Hance said his personal favorite among the pack is former Texas Gov. Rick Perry — but Perry's 2012 performance has him wary of supporting him this time around. He likes Walker, too, but he's concerned about the governor's electability.

"I like him, but I know some of the independents and other people that have union connections are totally opposed to him," Hance said. "So that might drive away some of the independent and lukewarm Republicans that otherwise might vote for a Republican that didn’t have that type of conflict or that type of baggage."

Hanson said the crowd gathered in Waukee is a "segment of the base" in Iowa. The state's evangelical voters tend to be a little older, he said, but they also tend to have a strong turnout in the caucuses and at the polls.

Reading a passage from the devotional book "Jesus Calling," Walker told the crowd about his decision to run for governor in 2010 — something he and his wife, Tonette, decided through discussion and prayer.

Walker has previously said he doesn't believe he should run for president because it's the "next logical step" in his career. Rather, he has said, it should be because he feels called to it.

"The best way to minister is to accept God's calling when you least expect it," Walker said. "We felt it was a calling to get in that election. We felt we were called to do the right thing, so we worried more about the next generation than we did the next election."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Indiana; US: Iowa; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; election2016; florida; homosexualagenda; indiana; libertarians; marcorubio; marriage; medicalmarijuana; scottwalker; statesrights; walker; wisconsin
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Scott Walker opens his Iowa Faith and Freedom talk by thanking people in our military - past, present, reserve - asking them to stand; then he asks everyone to pray for them, and for all who are serving or have served.

Walker's was the last speech of the evening and it was a great speech:

Scott Walker Addresses His Leadership To Iowa's Faith & Freedom Forum

1 posted on 04/26/2015 6:04:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Scott Kevin Walker

Born November 2, 1967 in Colorado, CO (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Liewellyn Scott Walker, born in IL
Patricia Ann Fitch, born in IL

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Scott Kevin Walker is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama still ISN'T!


2 posted on 04/26/2015 6:15:31 AM PDT by ASA Vet (We weren't here, We were never there, We don't exist, we never did.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's the guy that kicked union ass throwing in the towel on homo marriage:

Sun Prairie -- Speaking to reporters after a campaign event at a farm here, GOP Gov. Scott Walker said the state was abandoning its fight to keep its same-sex marriage ban.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/278252541.html

This, along with immigration, is another reason why I'm undecided.

3 posted on 04/26/2015 6:17:08 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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....Absent were any mentions of Wisconsin's job growth, which earned him criticism from his detractors during a recent trip to Minnesota. The state ranks at 40th in the nation for job growth and 42nd for wage growth, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. And the state's job growth has lagged the national average since six months into Walker's first term. .....

The real reason Wisconsin growth lags? It's not Gov. Scott Walker Marc V. Levine may have his statistics on jobs right, but his conclusion that the administration of Gov. Scott Walker is responsible for lower-than-average job growth in Wisconsin is wrong.

The reason Levine, a professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, reached the wrong conclusions is his failure to understand the dynamics that create job growth in a private economy ("Walker to blame for poor job growth," Crossroads, June 29). I have been chief executive and chairman of HUSCO International for 25 years. During this period, HUSCO has added 1,200 jobs. Since the end of 2009, we have added 320 jobs in Wisconsin.

Most medium to large businesses have the flexibility to add jobs anywhere. Under the administration of former Gov. Jim Doyle, with Democratic gubernatorial candidate Mary Burke as secretary of commerce, HUSCO significantly reduced jobs in Wisconsin and moved them to Iowa. The reason we made such a large investment in a new out-of-state factory when capacity existed in Wisconsin was driven by the difference in business support and labor availability, capability and cost. We made the decision to shrink our factory in Waukesha for internal reasons, but the decision to move more than 100 jobs to Iowa was based on the more attractive environment for business in that state.

There were both national and state issues that concerned us during the 2006-2009 time period. Like the majority of private businesses, HUSCO is organized as an S Corp, which means we pay taxes at the individual rates for Wisconsin and federal taxes. As he promised, President Barack Obama raised HUSCO's marginal tax rate to 39%, which resulted in a state and federal tax rate of 45%, compared with our international competitors that pay 20% to 35%.

Additionally, the Obama administration enacted other regulations and laws that harmed most businesses. When combined with minimal economic incentives to retain the jobs in Wisconsin under Doyle vs. large incentives from Iowa, it did not make economic sense for HUSCO to keep the jobs in Wisconsin.

More recently, the recall election of 2012 created uncertainty for those running businesses in the state. Uncertainty and job growth run counter to one another. However, even with the uncertainty created by the vitriolic recall politics during Walker's first couple of years, HUSCO was confident enough to add 320 high-paying jobs in the state.

Virtually 100% of business executives I know would say that there have been consequential improvements for business under the Walker administration. I believe there are two fundamental reasons for lower-than-expected job growth during Walker's first term."..........

4 posted on 04/26/2015 6:19:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Did you bother to read this article?


5 posted on 04/26/2015 6:21:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The question is not “can states ban same-sex marriage?”

The question is, “can states permit same-sex marriage?”


6 posted on 04/26/2015 6:22:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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Walker Responds to Cruz: 'I'm Going to Stand With the American Worker'

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7 posted on 04/26/2015 6:25:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Did you bother to read this article?

I did.

Rather than taking a bold stand and stating that WI will disregard any federal ruling that usurps its constitutional amendment defining marriage overwhelmingly supported by Wisconsinites like me, he's wishing and praying that SCOTUS - the same SCOTUS that upheld Obamacare and magically found a right to abortion - will do the job for him.

If not, then he's hoping for a constitutional amendment.

There is no federal jurisdiction whatsoever over state constitutional amendments defining marriage.

8 posted on 04/26/2015 6:28:13 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: Jim Noble

Indeed. And the answer is “no,” they cannot.

The “decision” is not up to federal judges or to the states. God already decided, from the beginning of the creation.

Walker shows himself to be a judicial supremacist, one who has no understanding of the natural law basis of this free republic.

We don’t need a Constitutional amendment to enforce the laws of nature and nature’s God. We just need representatives who understand, and who have the courage to do their duty to God and country by telling usurping, out-of-control judges to go to hell.


9 posted on 04/26/2015 6:28:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Constitution's preamble, which is its statement of purpose, is the supreme law of the land.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For many FReepers, Walker is insufficiently conservative, and if he is the GOP nominee, they will stay home on Election Day. Meanwhile, the Leftist will be pouring in from all corners of the earth (literally) to vote for Hillary or whoever the Democrats put up as their standard bearer.

The quest for perfection from the Right has become one of the final nails to be driven into the USA coffin.

My favorites, so far, are Walker and Cruz, but I won't take my ball and go home if neither one of them is on the ballot in November 2016. Many FReepers and other conservative purists will be doing precisely that.
10 posted on 04/26/2015 6:29:13 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walker suggested that voters should seek a constitutional amendment to allow state-level bans.a constitutional amendment to allow states to ban same-sex marriages.

That may be theoretically nice campaign hype, but not likely in reality, given the gutless cowardice on RCRA displayed by GOP governors (e.g., Brewer, Pence, and Hutchinson), and the unrelenting attack by the national and local fifth-column media and the leftist perverts in public school systems if such a serious attempt were made. And who would lead such an effort? A promise by GOP leadership for support is worthless nowadays.

And even if such an amendment were promoted and passed, it would face (mal)interpretation by a traitorous SCOTUS, just as the SCOTUS over the last few decades have subverted or just plain ignored parts of the Constitution they wanted changed or discarded.


11 posted on 04/26/2015 6:29:16 AM PDT by Carl Vehse ( z')
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. . . a wildly extreme position . . .

Do most Americans now think it is "wildly extreme" to believe marriage should involve one man and one woman? If they do, and I think they very well might, there is zero chance this country will survive.

12 posted on 04/26/2015 6:29:21 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It is not a matter of states being "allowed". It is a matter of the federal government having no authority whatsoever to address the issue. State sovereignty must mean something.
13 posted on 04/26/2015 6:30:07 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The reason so many politicians and Internet debaters are getting tangled up in this issue is because they start by granting the premise that it is possible for two men or two women to be married to each other, and are then stuck debating whether or not states can forbid it.

That question is like, “can states allow fire that does not burn?” or, “can states allow water that freezes at 70 degrees?”

If states cannot allow those things (and they cannot), then you don’t have to worry about whether or not they can ban them.


14 posted on 04/26/2015 6:31:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The reason so many politicians and Internet debaters are getting tangled up in this issue is because they start by granting the premise that it is possible for two men or two women to be married to each other, and are then stuck debating whether or not states can forbid it.

That question is like, “can states allow fire that does not burn?” or, “can states allow water that freezes at 70 degrees?”

If states cannot allow those things (and they cannot), then you don’t have to worry about whether or not they can ban them.


15 posted on 04/26/2015 6:32:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; EternalVigilance
This is working it's way through the courts.

Walker's position is clear.

He can't just make speeches and introduce bills, he has to govern the state and obey the laws.

Even the Governor of Alabama has had to come to that position.

Feb 13, 2015 - BIRMINGHAM, Ala. —Gov. Robert Bentley restated his stance on the gay marriage debate which has dominated headlines for weeks.

"For the last five days, gay couples received marriage licenses across Alabama.

However, some probate judges refused to issue them after Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore ordered them not to do so..

On Thursday, a new federal ruling prohibited Mobile County's probate judge from refusing marriage licenses to couples because they are gay.

Friday, we asked Gov. Robert Bentley if all probate judges should follow suit.

“Marriage is between a man and a woman. We believe that. But I also believe that our nation is a nation of laws. And I believe that we should have, not have to, we should always obey the law,” Gov. Bentley said.

Speaking of law, Thursday's ruling also bans Mobile County's judge from denying marriage licenses to gay couples prohibited by any "Alabama law or order pertaining to same sex marriage."

That would likely apply to orders like the one issued by Moore only days ago.

"I believe that each individual probate judge has to decide for themselves if they are going to obey the ruling, not the ruling, but the edict of our Supreme Court justice or if they are going to follow what the federal judge says,” Gov. Bentley said.

So far, at least half of the state’s 67 counties have agreed to issue licenses to same sex couples."

16 posted on 04/26/2015 6:40:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Dan in Wichita

I won’t be voting for what someone may consider to be “lesser of two evils” in this election, however the eventual ticket plays out. I have had more than I can stand of the “lesser of two evils” from this Congress.


17 posted on 04/26/2015 6:41:29 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Dan in Wichita
For many FReepers, Walker is insufficiently conservative

Dan, that's simply not true.

On several key issues, Walker simply has not shown leadership.

He has been all over the map on immigration, and has thrown in the towel on homosexual marriage.

He has done an excellent job on jobs and economic policies, and has crafted a good national defense agenda.

Conservatives are looking for bold, visionary leaders. Someone who speaks truth to power and turn back the statist policies that have been destroying America since FDR.

Walker's candidacy is a lot like GWB in 2000. Someone who checked all the boxes and is an across-the-board conservative, but can't be trusted on issues that matter.

18 posted on 04/26/2015 6:43:13 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: Jim Noble
Even calling it "same-sex marriage" is itself capitulating to the homo-mafia agenda.

Homosexual marriage simply doesn't exist. There is no precedent for it, and it's backed by millennia of laws, findings, and research.

All these states that had constitutional amendments had to do was disregard the federal judges that struck it down.

Look what Justice Moore did in AL. He took action and stood up for the state while the Governor hid underneath somebody's skirt.

19 posted on 04/26/2015 6:47:31 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Court opinions are not laws.

The idea that court opinions are laws is one of the primary fallacies that is destroying our constitutional republican form of self-government.

Make no mistake, the homosexual agenda is not just an attempt to destroy marriage and the natural family. It is an attempt to destroy free speech, freedom of religion, and, our entire form of government, along with its moral basis.

We’re supposed to have checks and balances. If judges usurp powers not granted to them by We the People via our constitutions, and in effect grant themselves lawmaking and veto powers granted only to the other departments, and if the officers of those other departments continue to blithely, abjectly, go along with the usurpation, we’re finished as a constitutional republic.


20 posted on 04/26/2015 6:53:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Constitution's preamble, which is its statement of purpose, is the supreme law of the land.)
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